On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 09:40:39PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 13.10.2010, 15:30 -0400 schrieb Paul W. Frields: > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:17:49PM +0200, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote: > > > Dear freedorians, > > > > > > we were researching the technical possibility of putting more then one > > > live cd on one disc. > > > The proof of concept succeded with these F13 compilations: > > > http://sspreitzer.fedorapeople.org/torrents/ > > > > > > Zoltan Hoppar and the media company in Munich came up with the idea to > > > use dual layered DVD discs, which will allow us to store arround 8.5 > > > GB of data. > > > This is where we are a looking now at the following proposed future > > > Fedora compilations: > > > > > > - All desktop spins and related archs on one disc. ( Gnome, KDE, LXDE, > > > XFCE, Moblin - i686, x86_64 - arround 7GB ) PoC succeded. Tested and > > > working. > > > - All installer data and related arch on one disc. ( Full Fedora - > > > i686, x86_64 - arround 6.5GB ) PoC needed! Blocked due to anaconda > > > installer options and data paths/devices ( stage2 / repo ). > > > > > > I requested a pricing quote from the media company in Munich for the > > > upper scenario, > > > the result is ~1,000.00 EUR cost savings while producing the same > > > amount of media ( 5,000 pcs ). > > > http://sspreitzer.fedorapeople.org/mediaquotes/F14/quote_121010_DE.pdf > > > > > > (We could even produce 10,000 pcs while staying in the budget for EMEA.) > > > > > > My questions are: > > > - Can we solve the blocker on anaconda for the installer compilation? > > > - Should we start this approach by F14? > > > > > > - By looking at F15, could we strip a "choose > > > live-desktop/arch/install" all-in-one dual layer disc? > > > > > > > > > Thoughts on hardware compatability: > > > By comment of the media company in Munich: Dual layer DVDs are not > > > compatible to all dvd players. But to most of them. > > > ( Every DVD player who can play a movie DVD is likely compatible. ) > > > In my humble opinion this is not a blocker for Fedora, which is about > > > being first and rapid releasing near to cutting edge. > > > > As we pursue and conquer the technical problems, > > What technical problems? For the install media we cannot fix them in F14 > and for the live media there are none, the proof of concept works and > has been tested by many people already. You can read that as "zero or more issues of a technical nature," I wasn't implying anything else. :-) > > we should also make > > sure to raise the trademark issue with the Board and ensure that > > they're supportive. > > Why would that be needed if all spins on the media already have been > granted the trademark? I don't understand how the images are put together. If they're ISO's connected by some sort of thin glue, perhaps everyone agrees nothing is needed. I just think it would be wise to make sure everyone agrees, since I hadn't seen that discussion. > > I may have missed that discussion, and if so I > > apologize profusely and would love it if someone would send me a link, > > so I can cure my ignorance! :-) > > You haven't missed much, only > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-October/015642.html > That discussion does not deal with the trademark though. Thanks! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
