> Just wanted to make it clear that this discussion has been ongoing for many > years. > > --g I can imagine it. Its in deed in our nature , in the core of our work. We believe that freedom risks are a cost we can afford working for our values. Specially when the freedom is one of then. I understood something now that i did not knew before: The trademark is not in the hands and decision of the community. Its in the hands of the enterprise. I'm not telling that's a bad thing or a good thing. Its just i did not understood that before. In this situation i would propose the same of you, to create a new logo 100% free for the use of the community. I think i did what i was able to do, to ask for one open debate to consider the freedom in the logo. i must accept that the answer is no. If the enterprise, witch is not a community and has not the same point of view, does not allow one open logo (with good or bad reasons), I'm no one to judge or push things in this community. I just maintain one point of view and respect the others. Ill try to make one package of the concept map for fedora and continue my work and fights. I don't think you will need me more on this subject. I strongly think you must have hackers with clear ideas and inspiration on it. I feel like i make a little noise and i don't wanted to disturb. I want to be very reasonable and peaceful while I express that that freedom open debates are different than just have answers from the authorities. And if we have one enterprise telling what we can do, we have one strong authority and a freedom risk. Thanks for listening my point of view and have a lot of luck in the future. See you around folks :) And thank you all for Fedora. -- René Mérou What people feel in freedom is always new and exciting but some times we forget that freedom is inside the heard not outside. No mater what the reality is or what conditions we have, the freedom we feel is related to the imagination and the hope we have and the ones we accepted we can have. _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
