On 08/30/2010 09:55 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > "The Fedora Project works to create a world in which free/open-source > software is pervasive, collaboration is the norm, and people are > empowered to control their own data and devices." I suppose this depends on what the point of a vision statement is. Wikipedia says: A Mission statement tells you the fundamental purpose of the organization. It defines the customer and the critical processes. It informs you of the desired level of performance. A Vision statement outlines what the organization wants to be, or how it wants the world in which it operates to be. It concentrates on the future. It is a source of inspiration. It provides clear decision-making criteria. So, as a vision statement, this outlines how Fedora wants the world in which it operates to be. It does have a focus on the future (although, it isn't explicitly worded in that way). I could argue that it is a source of inspiration. This may not seem to provide clear decision-making criteria, but in a way, it does. Take Microsoft's vision statement (at one point, at least): "A personal computer in every home running Microsoft software." Microsoft can ask itself "Does this contribute to getting Microsoft software on every home PC?" Can we ask ourselves similar qualifying questions around this vision statement? Perhaps we can ask "Does this make FOSS pervasive?" "Does this make collaboration the norm?" "Does this empower people to control their own data and devices?" So, it meets the criteria, but honestly, the vision statement doesn't interest me at all. I really had to force myself to care here. What does interest me is setting big goals with timetables for Fedora and working together to achieve them. I would love to see us commit to goal driven efforts like: * Improve usability for new users for all default Fedora desktop applications in partnership with the upstreams (over the next four releases). * Enable Fedora as a powerful platform for Free Content creation (audio, video, artistic) with reliable and well tested tools and documentation. (over the next four releases) ****** We could come up with more by simply being candid about the areas where we are weak, not just in comparison to other Linux flavors, but the computing industry at large. We could focus on Education, Hardware, User Classes, and we don't have to do it forever. Then, when we set these, we can revisit them at the end of each release and see what progress we have made towards these. FESCo will have a bar to judge Features against (although, that is not to say that other, compelling features that fall out of scope of these goals will not be approved). We might find that after a few releases, we like a goal, and can keep it for additional time, or we can achieve the goals and move to new ones. If a vision statement is a necessary step in that process, fine. I think people are looking for more from the Board and FESCo than that though. I think that we have a community of willing participants, who are waiting for us to tell them where to go to work. I'm interested in hearing where the community thinks we are weak, and where it thinks we should improve, and without naming specific technologies (please, no "get rid of RPM/KDE/Emacs/$PACKAGE"). ~spot _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board