On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, inode0 wrote: > >> I'd like to take a minute to actually propose something concrete for >> the Board to consider as it sees fit in the coming months. The >> conversation in the related thread has now veered off into areas I >> don't want to pursue. >> >> Proposed Changes: >> >> F15 Election (the next election): no change >> F16 Election : convert the post election appointed seat to an elected seat >> F17 Election: convert the post election appointed seat to an elected seat >> >> The principle reason I want to make this change is to empower the >> Fedora community to effectively control the composition of its primary >> governance body. I also want it to be clear to everyone both inside >> and outside of Fedora that it is the Fedora Project who determines who >> governs the project. >> >> I accept the reasons given for retaining some appointed seats as >> sound. Looking back over the past four elections it appears to me that >> the post election appointment was used to seat the candidate who >> received the most votes without landing in an elected seat. This I >> think argues that we are not short of strong and capable candidates >> running and don't need to consider reducing the number of Board seats >> unless there are other considerations. >> > > +1 from me in theory but -1 for actually doing it. There's some practical > problems: > > 1) This artificially gives the the board a much higher chance of being even > more Red Hat based. We have an unfair advantage in that we can spend more > time working on Fedora. Therefore we know more people, have more time to > campaign, make a difference, etc. It's not fair to volunteers and would > skew the board. > +1 from me as well. That said - look at the history page on the wiki: Of the appointed seats, 13 terms went to RHT employees, while 5 went to non-RHT employees. Of the elected seats - 10 terms went to non-RHT employees, while 14 went to RHT employees Of course in that time period number of elected appointed have changed. Additionally, I don't recall if Seth was a RHT employee when he first served on the board (Though I know Paul was not) So historically - the potential problem you describe is less likely to happen without appointments than with. _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board