On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 13:52, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:28:18 -0500 (CDT) > Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> <not a board member but commenting anyway> > > Excellent. ;) > >> To me the quote above is a goal, not a rule. There will be >> exceptions, but they should be exceptions and not the norm. > > ok. It's hard to tell if it's an absolute or a goal. > Clarification on that from the Board would be good. Vision statements are generally goals, however I can see the confusion in how this is framed. In general a vision is where you want to be at whether the laws of physics and the universe make it possible. The policies and procedures are the attempts of meeting the goal with reality. When hard physics takes over then its time to clarify the vision to less lofty levels. >> If no one has a particular bug open and the bug fixed isn't >> substantial, I'd sit on the update or send it to testing at most. > > There are bugs. All the time. :) They want it to work with device X > thats supported in the new release. The XKCD feed handling is broken > and they want a fix, etc. > > So, I should only push an update here when there is a specific bug that > someone has filed that I know is fixed in newer version X? I will be honest here.. we start answering things here and it would feel like we are taking over FESCO. Which I am guessing is part of the dance problem between the two organizations :/... we give lofty goal like things, and you are like " bwa? did that make sense to you? me either..." In some ways we are both trying to be the 'legislative' body and expecting the other to be the 'executive' (or vice versa:)) . So how can we make this clearer and better working? [My own take on this is that there is no way that the vision could be an absolute rule. It can be an absolute rule over some parts and others are just not going to work because their release cycles are hourly/weekly versus 6 monthy. So figure out what things are good for 6 month update cycles and call it Core and then everything else call it Extras. wait.. I think I have been here before and it wasn't pretty.] -- Stephen J Smoogen. “The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance.” Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. "We have a strategic plan. It's called doing things."" — Herb Kelleher, founder Southwest Airlines _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board