On Saturday 20 February 2010 12:09:03 am Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 22:43 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > There is no official document that says this, but there is at least one > > board member who claimed that "spins are a detriment to Fedora". He > > didn't outline why he thinks so, but the statement still stands. And it > > hurts, at least for the people who work on the different spins. > > I normally avoid threads like this like the plague, and I'm not on the > board, but I will tell you why _I_ consider spins as currently > implemented to be detrimental to Fedora. And please, don't take this as > a personal attack on the hard work that some of the current spin > maintainers do; I'm trying to say that the decision to adopt spins as > the solution to our direction problem was a strategic mistake. Not on board neither, usually avoiding threads like this too :D > - Having a bunch of alternative spins and no clear default is poison for > the Fedora brand. It leads to ambassadors handing out their personal > favorite spin instead of the default spin and selling it as 'Fedora'. > To have any wider success, 'Fedora' must have a very clear meaning. > Currently, 'Fedora' can mean any number of things. > > - It splits us into a bunch of small fiefdoms where each group works on > their thing, instead of working on a common product. And knowledge of > what other groups do is often limited to hearsay and second-guessing. > > - To a non-geek user, the choice of LXDE vs XFCE vs KDE vs Gnome makes > no sense whatsoever. 'A system tailored for Electrical Engineering' vs > 'A system tailored for Astronomy' might make some more sense, but still, > the mostly likely takeaway from a set of choices like that is 'not for > me'. Yes, I agree - as I already have written - let's have main Fedora branded - default distro defined as set of best available software - platform based on current spins (G, K, L, s, g)... Let's work together - every team should commit to this default Fedora. But please do not say any of current spis is suitable to be this default distro. Please no G spin = default, K spin should be default. And it was Fedora before live medias... I know - few years ago there was one big technical constraint - size of CD. It's over. For purists - allow pure G, K, whatever spins too. Jaroslav > _______________________________________________ > advisory-board mailing list > advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board