On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:52:32AM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > > >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> Feel free to work on whatever you want but dont expect anything. >>> People come by, start to like Fedora (for whatever reasons), stay, >>> start to contribute (not speaking of GNOME/Desktop/Default >>> contributors) and get treated like disabled persons from time to time. >> >> They get treated like disabled persons? I'm not exactly sure what you >> mean, but that sounds pretty offensive to multiple groups of people. >> > >Actually - I think it sounds about right. Yeah... I'm going to have to sort of disagree with you there. >Access is made for them, but it's not planned in. It's sort of made an >afterthought. That sounds like most accessibility features I've seen for >various disabilities in the real world. You know as well as I do that the current state of affairs in disabled accessibility is not a goal to shoot for. Further, I think your analogy is just wrong or at best perhaps skewed. There are no explicit extra hurdles to jump through that only apply to one group or the other. If there are, that is something we should be focused on eliminating for the most part. In terms of contribution to Fedora, KDE, LXDE, XFCE are not afterthoughts. They have active contributor bases that as far as I know are no impeded by any sort of accessibility issues in terms of the Fedora project. They produce useful and, in my opinion, fairly high quality spins that their user bases seem pleased with. Now, I will certainly agree that resources across the various Spins are not equal. However that is not an inherent flaw in Fedora that needs fixing. Resources (both in terms of finance and developer hours) are going to naturally vary depending on interest in the particular items. Trying to skew that as some sort of "Fedora only cares about XYZ and not ABC" just seems like pot stirring. It could certainly be the case that XYZ only cares about XYZ, but it's not a reflection of the Fedora project. And don't think I'm sitting here being some kind of status quo sympathizer. I know first hand what it's like to have resources either shift away from something you care about or not be at the same level as other things inherently. It happend with PPC. However, I also know that it is something that is going to happen from time to time and pretending that we as a project could magically make everything be equal is going to both fail and just feed into more bad blood. Interests and time will fall where people have interest and time. josh _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
