Re: Response to "Getting Fedora Out of the If-Then Loop"

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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote:

There's a reality here that's not being acknowledged, and it has little to do with popularity. I hope folks who work on XFCE or KDE in Fedora don't come into those projects with the expectation that the same amount of resources are dedicated to those as the desktop spin - because that's never been true, and I sure hope they've not been misled into thinking so. If I go to a Honda dealer in order to buy a Chevy I saw an ad for in the paper, I do go with the full understanding that they're a Honda dealership and don't argue with the dealer that he should have that used Cobalt in red, blue, and silver as well as black.

If you're comparing the experience of building a community with the experience of buying a car, aren't we in the wrong territory? Because that metaphor rapidly turns Red Hat into a greasy car dealer, and the hardworking community into customers who can like what we give them, or shut up. Surely that's not the metaphor we want to extend. :)

To be clear: I don't believe that people *do* expect to get the same amount of resources. I believe that, mostly, people work their asses off, and hope (a) to be recognized for it, and (b) to get a little help now and then -- but I think that now, those people who were getting few enough resources as it is, are faced with the very real possibility that they'll get *even less*, because the focus will shift continually away from them with every conversation, and inexorably towards the One Exalted Desktop Of Teh Future.

I think that's why you continue to get pushback.

Again: I don't necessarily think the decisions to narrow focus are wrong.

What I *do* think would be helpful would be to identify specific points of legitimate concern that contributors have about change of focus, and how that change will affect them.

Something like this:

* Issue: Fedora only talks about the default GNOME spin on the front page.

* One possible resolution: a very prominent, regularly recurring piece on the front page of fp.o called "Spin of the Month", that has a talk piece about a particular spin, why it's important, who works on it, how to get it and play with it, and how to get help.

* Issue: Usability folks have never once given a moment's thought to Xfce!

* Possible resolution: each spin gets an hour of the Fedora design team's time each month to discuss issues...

...and so on.  Mind you, these are just examples, and likely imperfect.

For what it's worth, I really like Mike McGrath's ideas about providing Engineering as a service to other areas of the project, and believe that this idea can be usefully extended over time.

I'm not saying that it's an easy issue to sort out, and ultimately focus
*is* required, and like it or not, in some cases that means "winners and
losers".  But don't pretend those issues aren't important.  They are.

Well wait a minute, isn't this reducing it to a popularity contest
again? Are we working for the love and passion we have for what we do,
or are we working for glory?

Volunteers work because they love it, and because they hope that other people will say "this is awesome, thank you." It's really that simple, Mo. People who have worked hard on a project, and who feel like the Larger Project As A Whole is drawing already limited focus away from their project, are going to get less help and hear fewer thank yous. Recognize that, and respect it, even as you make tough decisions.

As always, just my $0.02.

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