Hi, Let me briefly summarize my takeaway from the discussion before it gets flushed from short term memory: On the Fedora infrastructure side, the two main things that I remember are: * Do enhancement updates at most once a month (keeping one repo, so enhancements might get pushed along with security, but better than the arbitrary time now) * AutoQA hook in updates process Most of the experience problems in my mind are actually in the desktop UI we have currently; i.e. don't apply if you're running a virtual private server which you administer over ssh or whatever. Though there is some overlap; e.g. providing the user/admin with knowledge of what needs to be restarted consistently. I wrote up a summary of my discussions with mizmo and skvidal here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Desktop/Whiteboards/UpdateExperienceImplementation The concept of doing the per-application update in the UI still needs fleshing out; the whole thing is probably an F14 completion type thing, depending on resourcing; though F13 could have some more short-term hacks, say just target Firefox specifically as some people have been advocating. _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board