On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Gianluca Sforna <> wrote: > Please accept my apologies if this is not the proper place to ask. > > I've never read anything against this, so I'm wondering if it was ever > brought up at all. > > Are Fedora ambassadors allowed to also be <put your alternate distro > name here> ambassadors? Hello there, I tend to say yes you can, but after reading the comments of others I'll now say yes and no. * First ask what is the purpose of the Fedora Ambassador Project ? Please bear in mind here i'm not referring to the purpose of the Fedora Ambassador. It's not only about events, like some comments tend to reflect. It's not only about wearing a blue polo shirt either. It also entails the _quality_ of information being spread, what is the accuracy of the information being spread and is it the professional way to do so ?. You started this thread not sure whether it is suitable for this mailing list or not. A Fedora Ambassador was supposed to know the Fedora Project and how to get feedback out of Fedora Project to the public and get feedback into the Fedora Project so that things can achieve efficiently. * "Fedora Ambassador" is a title which many people abuse or wrongly use it. Another question one should ask is : What is my purpose as a Fedora Ambassador with respect to the core values of the Fedora Project ? "The love for Opensource". Talking about how good is opensource is not enough. These opensource philosophies should also be respected. "Fedora Ambassador" should ensure that these philosophies are respected. For e.g. there is a linkedin group "opensource X", however big corporates are posting marketing items of their non-opensource products there. What is the role of the Fedora Ambassador here ? Will the word of a Fedora Ambassador gain more respect than a normal person if one says "Listen keep your proprietary solutions out of this group" Does the Fedora Ambassador status bring more people to agree with what the Fedora Ambassador replied ? There are many cases like these where we(fedora contributors) need people(ideally Fedora Ambassadors). But if there are no Fedora Ambassador available to fill this need, then what can the Fedora Ambassador do ? It is also a role to lead and manage that takes time, having a dual-title with other group, one may not have enough time to achieve it. * "Fedora Ambassador" IS NOT a title for self-marketing. That said, if you plan to use fedora ambassador title and ubuntu equivalent title for example and you are not contributing for the proper communication between both. Then it is pointless. It could also be considered as self-marketing. Human errors are common. Let's say a fedora contributor said something pretty bad about another distribution. With your dual-title, everyone expects you to play a role in restoring the peace and harmony again. * Your purpose as a Fedora Ambassador. When joining the Fedora Ambassador project, one should have a personal goal to achieve with the Fedora Ambassador title. What was your goal ? Is it about + ensuring communication and sharing between different projects ? + using your personal skills to help Fedora Project to get a professional marketing image ? + mentoring new local contributors ? + the excitement to complete random requests from both fedora contributors and public to achieve some sort of communication relay ? + .... * "Fedora Ambassador" fills the holes of Fedora contributors. Fedora Ambassador task is not only about spreading the word from the Fedora project to the outside world (pay attention to the direction). It is also to help sub fedora projects in getting the deserved marketing value. That said, a Fedora Ambassador is an ideal person within the Fedora Community to get promotional material prepared, give feedbacks about the existing promotional material, find a fedora contributor to improve both the content and visual aids, see what in the real life what is the competing product is doing in terms of marketing and why the opensource software in question is missing to attract the masses. There are so many roles within the Fedora Project where the Fedora Ambassador can play a vital role as a leader. * Dual-title status versus Fedora Budget ? Having dual-title reflects time spent on each. Other Fedora contributors might contribute their full spare-time for Fedora Project. It would be unfair for Fedora Project to cover the expenses of this Fedora Ambassador and not on one contributing his/her full spare-time. It sadly happened in the past, where a Fedora contributor (actually with a dual-title too) for about 3months of activity was reimbursed for his travel to an event and during that event he spent his time roaming from conference room to conference room (non fedora related). Now he is no longer contributing for Fedora. Could that money be well spent ? I would love instead to use that more for creating FEL livedvds. Creating livedvds, takes time in ensuring it happens. Hence another example about how Fedora Ambassador can contribute in filling the holes of the other fedora friend, by getting things done. Fedora contributors are counting on Fedora Ambassadors in achieving X, Y and Z with or without dual-title status. However it is expected to hear (in event reports, blogs, ...) the feedbacks of those having dual-title status about how the Fedora Ambassador title help him/her in achieving X, Y and Z: Kind regards, Chitlesh Goorah _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
