Hi Paul! Thank you for your answer. Like Christoph, I am also concerned about signing the TLA for my German Fedora web site. I will try to explain my concerns, even though it will be difficult for me, since the topic is rather complex and English isn't my native language. > Section 3 only contemplates a transfer of the domain name. There's no > implication for the content of the website (data), which remains the > property of the previous owner. You can transfer a domain name > without transferring any data or content, but I suspect you knew that > already. ;-) I do not completely agree. The TLA also says: "The right to use the Licensor's Trademarks will cease immediately upon the termination or expiration of this Agreement and Licensee must immediately discontinue use of the Licensor's Trademarks." If I understand it correctly, it means that after termination, I would not only have to give away the domain, but I would also have to stop using the word "Fedora" at all. This means that with terminating the TLA, it would not only mean that I would lose the domain, but it would also render the content completely worthless, because I would not be allowed to publish it any more. I also see some issues with Section 4 ("Permitted Use"), especially with the Trademark guidelines. If I understood them correctly, I would be required to do the following: 1) I would have to use trademark symbols "for the first instance" of "Fedora" on my site. Well, I just cannot do that! I could try for my own content, even though I am sure I would forget some. Anyhow the site also allows visitors to post comments, and I cannot make sure that those commentors also use the proper trademark symbols. And what is the "first instance" anyways? Now when I take the TLA literally, then Red Hat would be allowed to terminate the TLA immediately if I just forgot the trademark symbol on a very single "first instance" of "Fedora". On my site's imprint, it is stated that trademarks are used without the explicit use of trademark symbols, and the lack of a symbol does not necessarily mean that there is no trademark existing. This is allright according to German law. I am afraid that I can be sued for trademark violation when I start to use the symbols on some trademarks, but do not on others. (I hope you get the picture.) 2) I would be required to use the Fedora "Spinfinity" logo. When I started that site, I decided to use a self made logo. I do not use the Spinfinity logo at all (except of some Fedora screenshots maybe). Of course I want to keep it that way. 3) I would also be required to add links and a disclaimer ("This site is not affiliated with...") in English language, which is rather nonsense on a German web site. After all, when I see the TLA and the Trademark guidelines, I see a LOT of "must do" and "must not do" rules. I cannot assess all the legal implications of the TLA. But I see that breaking one single rule (even if unintentionally or by a commentor's post) would allow Red Hat to immediately terminate the TLA, which would mean that I would lose the domain, and I also would not be allowed to publish the content any more. Frankly, I would rather drop the domain or close down the entire site, before I would sign the TLA. I hope that I could explain my concerns in an understandable way. -- Richard _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board