On 08/23/2009 10:16 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: > Nobody, absolutely nobody said you shouldn't pick a default. Of course > pick it, but show the rest as well in the same manner. Since you agree that there should be a default, this is exactly what my point was about openSUSE's current decision of having a default instead of leaving it all open to end users but I don't agree that we need to put all the other desktop environments at the same level in the front page. There are just too many. This would clutter the download page and confuse users. The users who would get confused about it is always going to be the majority and unless we want to ignore that audience (which would be a valid option as well), our design should cater to them. I also recommend listening to http://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice.html > So what is listen to the community for you? And it has nothing to do > with fanboyism what i wrote. It's just the example with KDE. "“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” - Henry Ford. That is a often repeated quote on relying on the consequence of relying on the wisdom of the masses. Your example of listening to the community is a popularity contest. I don't think popularity contest is the right way to make every decision. A vote on Fedora theme from end users would never really consider factors such as copyright, usability testing, contrast against desktop icons and so on yet these are critically important to us in making the right choices. Users will often look for short term gratification and the votes often reflect this. In several decisions, users are not going to able to determine the technical nuances of the decision well enough to make a informed choice. A vote for SELinux enabled by default would have never come from users directly especially around the time we did make that choice. I would argue that, Fedora and Linux on the whole benefited from that decision nevertheless. There is no silver bullet solution to this. We can take a vote into account on occasions but blindly following it is a disaster. Rahul _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
