On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:17:35PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> Do you think the current Desktop spin is not the one that we want to present >> to entice the most contributors? I'm a bit confused as to what exactly you >> are trying to propose here. >> >The current focus is about bits and product, not about people and tasks. > >This is what the current page looks like: > >http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora > >[ Get Fedora 11 Desktop Edition Now [ KDE Fans go here! ] >This is the latest version of the [ Have a PowerPC? Go here! ] >Fedora Linux operating system [ Show me all download >featuring the GNOME desktop. It's options on one page] >everything you need to try out >Fedora—and if you like it, install >it right from the desktop! ] > >What does Fedora 11 Desktop Edition let me do? I need to run a server, >where do I go? I'm a C++ developer, what do I want to use? "What does it let me do?" is sort of a silly question. All the spins allow you to do the exact same stuff, just with a different look to _start_ with. If you know what a server or C++ is, you are probably knowledgeable enough to click the "more info" link (aka spins page). >I'd like to see something more people focused. Why do/should people >choose one of the spins over another one? What sets them apart? I The "what is" and "what sets apart" is one of the explicit goals for the spins page. Not the default download page. >Here's an example of what I mean (remember this is a strawman, I'm not >involved with all of these teams so I don't know what they see as what >their special niche is): > > >With Fedora 11 you can browse the web, talk with friends, write novels, >run a business, design websites, or write great software. > >[ Download the Fedora Desktop Edition for a > general purpose desktop. ] > > [ Want to develop software? [ Want to convert a PowerPC > Try out KDE ] Mac into something useful? > Run Fedora PPC ] > > [ Show me all preconfigured download options ] You're missing the targeting part here. We aren't looking to redesign the default download page and keep the exact same content. We want it simple, targeted at new users, and with a clear an easy link for differentiation present (to the spins page). >People say over and over that it's impossible to condense all the >differences between Gnome and KDE into a single line but that's not >really the point. The actual differences in the upstream projects are >less important here than the one thing that each of our spin creators >wants to advertise as the thing they do well. Our Desktop spin and our >KDE spin both want to be general purpose desktops but if they were truly >the same thing, we'd only ship one of them. And they can differentiate that on the spins page. josh _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board