On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 01:47:16PM -0800, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > Unlike RHEL engineering, these ISVs do not get to pick when Fedora is > branched for RHEL 6. I had a short sidebar where I revealed a bit more of my thinking, and I thought it would help if I shared it back here. ## BEGIN My thinking is fairly simple. FWIW, I'm still contemplating, having come to the thread a day late; I don't have a full opinion, but was just speaking to a partner viewpoint that matters to Fedora (v. RHEL partners.) Six months is a proven clock to run against. However, we "always slip a few weeks" and we also have discovered some of the reasons why in our scheduling. I _know_ from this round of scheduling about 10 more reasons why Docs misses certain L10n deadlines, and we are going to have those improved for F11. It is a reasonable expectation that we can set a six month schedule and actually keep it. I know there is no proof here, but it really isn't viable to continue with the expectation that we always slip. That is even more of a fallacy than making an occasional bump like this. The ISVs wouldn't really care about a longer window, but they are going to feel a shorter window. I can beat the six month drum much better than the May Day/Halloween drum, in terms of explaining to them why we follow that proven clock. OK, let me see if I can distill some concrete from that: * Our original premise is "six months is the right rhythm", then we attached that to a fixed calendar for various conveniences. There is more value in the original premise than in the conveniences that followed from it. In this case, the goal is to _not_ change what is concretely working. * We better enable new contributors who have not already begun on F11; that is, the people who are stuck in the here-and-now and haven't begun to plan roadmaps and activate them in to rawhide. Anyway, still thinking ... ## END In follow-up, it's clear we pick our calendar-tie for good and not arbitrary reasons, but I maintain that it is the six-month rythym that is primary, with "sync to upstreams and downstreams" as secondary. I also don't see how the change in schedule this time negatively affects the reasons we picked May/Oct. In other words, it's not like we are going to miss the GNOME and KDE releases. :) - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41
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