On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 11:21 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 08:40 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > What purpose would getting the answers to those questions serve? >> >> >> >> If we are unhappy with the total voter turnout and want to do >> >> something about it for the next election... then making an effort to >> >> identify if there is an imbalance in the voting would be worthwhile. >> >> Did our European contributors vote in proportion to their cla numbers >> >> compared to the North American contributors? If not.. then we know to >> >> lean on Max and try to get those numbers up for the next election. He >> >> should be fluent in European by now, so he shouldn't need any help >> >> traveling the countryside gathering voters in his wake. >> > >> > That answers the geographic question you had. Sounds like a very sane >> > reason and I'm also curious as to what the results of that would be. >> > >> > Why do you want to know about the percentage of Red Hat voters vs. >> > community? >> > >> >> If the majority of people who voted are inside of RH and not out... >> then you have a potential bias you need to focus on the next election. >> Why didn't people outside of RH vote? Is the process working? Do >> people not feel franchised? > > You aren't going to be able to answer those questions without asking > people directly. And for those outside of Red Hat that _did_ vote, it's > a pointless question. > > You can get the answers to those specific questions without finding out > a percentage of Red Hat vs. non-Red Hat voters. Just ask people on > blogs, f-a-b, fedora-devel, <other communication channel> to explain why > they didn't vote. > >> > Or, put another way, what difference does that distinction make? Should >> > we get the same data for Dell and IBM (as they have separate CLAs like >> > Red Hat)? >> > >> > IMHO, a voter's employer just doesn't matter. >> > >> >> It does if people outside of RH feel they are not going to be >> recognized or represented and thus give up on the system. > > Voting is one of the ways to have them feel recognized and represented. > If they didn't bother to vote, they gave up that mechanism for > representation voluntarily. That argument is logically valid but humans are not logical. If people feel that voting is not going to make a difference they will have no incentive to continue with the process. Our brain's logical centers are easily over-ridden by our emotional and other centers.. a lot easier than we like to believe. It is the purposeful or non-purposeful manipulation of those over-rides that doing this check is to help keep in check. [Of course it could also lead to the fact that if you see that 90% of Dell employees voted but 10% of RH employees voted.. you should target those people more] Or go for mandatory voting with a 'Non-of-the-above' category if people aren't happy with any of the candidates. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
