http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2008-02-26
== Roll Call ==
Attendees: Paul Frields, Steve Dickson, Bill Nottingham, Matt Domsch,
Dennis Gilmore, Chris Aillon, Seth Vidal, Spot Callaway, John Poelstra
Regrets: Jef Spaleta, Karsten Wade, Bob McWirther
== Followup to Previous Business ==
=== Secondary Arch Hosting (2008-02-19) ===
* Can Fedora host binaries for secondary architectures?
* Change from original proposal
* makes it easier to get new mirrors and use mirror manager
* DECISION: board approves of Fedora hosting binaries for secondary
architectures
* '''FOLLOWUP 2008-02-26'''
* Infrastructure group raising issue with lack of space
* Are distribution methods a concern for growing secondary
architectures?
* OWNERS: Seth and Matt; Spot also assisting
* ACTIONS: reach out to existing relationships and pursue storage
opportunities
=== fedoraproject.org mail (2008-01-29)===
* Take steps to approach changes that were requested in the past
* Could we create a better start and search page for Fedora mailing list?
* ACTION: check back on status in one month
* OWNER: Dennis Gilmore
* '''FOLLOWUP 2008-02-26'''
* Dennis has spoken with some people inside RHT IS
* should have no issues making a fedora branded interface to Red
Hats mailman instance and having a @fedoraproject.org alias for fedora lists
* existing lists will stay where they are
* could migrate all mailing lists to fedoraproject.org in time time
if so desired
* driving forces here is:
1. making everything run Fedora
1. break ties to RHT IS which does not make Fedora a priority
* fedoraproject.org email addresses lost four days of email a
week ago and RHT did nothing to try and remedy the problem
* ACTION: check back on status in one month
=== Job of the Fedora Board (2008-01-29)===
* Discussion resulted from fedora-advisory-board-list thread
* Clarify roles and responsibilities of the board and make wiki pages
more specific
* ACTION: check back on status in one month
* OWNER: Paul Frields
* '''FOLLOWUP 2008-02-26'''
* Paul updated some of the wiki pages.
* Key issues:
1. Keep decision making as much as possible in the community
1. Board is responsible for three types of issues
a. escalated issues
a. issues not covered by any committee in Fedora
a. sensitive legal or personnel issues that need to be covered
in private
=== LWN 10th Birthday (2006-02-12) ===
* Board voted to make contribute to LWN in commemoration of its 10th
birthday
* Contribution went toward purchasing 75 subscriptions which start on
March 1, 2008
* In the future (when there is more lead time) look into ways to use
things like this as rewards for strong Fedora leadership and community
participation
* OWNER: Jef Spaleta
* ACTION: Jef to followup Max Spevack who made original arrangements
and then post to fedora-advisory-board list soliciting feedback on the
best way to create a lottery to give these out to Fedora people who can
use them.
* FOLLOWUP 2008-02-26
* Requests are rolling in and Jef is handling lottery
=== Trademark Usage By Non-Profit Organizations (2006-02-19) ===
* Use of Fedora trademark by non-profit organizations
* Fedora ambassadors in Europe are working on setting up a non-profit
* Board would prefer detailed reporting on a quarterly basis
* Board would ask people not to flood the board requests for six
months so that existing requests and be addressed
* OWNER: Paul Frields
* ACTIONS:
1. Send draft policy to fedora-board-list
1. Collaboratively modify draft on list and reach consensus vote
1. Upon approval post to fedora-advisory-board list and
fedora-ambassadors-list as public notice
1. Inform Fedora EMEA Ambassadors of the "yes" vote
* '''FOLLOWUP 2008-02-26'''
* Approved and email sent:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-February/msg00157.html
* NPO is responsible; Max will likely be point person for quarterly
reports
* Use of Fedora trademark is being requested for an organization in India
* DECISIONS:
* As requested at last meeting would like wait to six months
until reviewing further requests
* Board wants to arrive at a governance model that works and
makes sense; will take some time to confirm what works best
* Want to give some time to see how things work with EMEA
== New Business ==
=== Status of PPC ===
* Request from RHEL Engineering to Fedora for the current status of
PPC as primary or secondary architecture
* Spot Callaway spoke to issue
* There are no changes from its current status which is understood to be:
1. PPC will remain a primary architecture until there is at least
one other building secondary architecture; this has not been happened yet
1. PPC SIG remains responsible for all release engineering
responsibilities around PPC
=== Summer of Coding ===
* What do we want to pursue for 2008?
* What do we want to achieve?
* Start collecting project ideas on the mailing list and wiki
* Separate Red Hat paid positions from Google Summer of Code
* OWNER: Karsten Wade
* ACTIONS: Move discussion to fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx and
split out between Red Hat and Summer of Code work
=== Trademark Cease & Desist ===
* Brief recap of what happened with Data Portability
* Putting procedures in place so that board reviews Trademark issues
going forward
* OWNER: Paul Frields
* ACTIONS:
* Paul Frields and Spot Callaway meeting with RHT Legal to make sure
board is consulted first in actions such as this that involve Fedora
=== Codeina ===
* Still not comfortable that we are pointing people to content that is
not "Free and Open Source software"
* Cannot suitably fix codeina in the Fedora 9 time frame
* ACTIONS:
1. Review email thread:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2007-November/msg00050.html
1. Move discussion to fedora-advisory-board list to formulate a
solution there
1. Propose patching out other for sale non-free plugins
1. Bill Nottingham to make sure that live spin includes codeina
correctly
== Future Business (discuss at a future meeting) ==
=== Post-release updates of custom spins (2008-01-29) ===
* Should the board have to approve them?
* We will hosts as many spins as we have space for
* Need to determine the hosting requirements and limits
* How long will spins stay around?
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RahulSundaram/SpinsProcess
* ACTION: Jef to review Rahul's proposal and report back to board
* OWNER: Jef Spaleta
* '''FOLLOWUP on 2008-02-12'''
* Jef is waiting for feedback from Jeremy Katz on release
engineering's perspective
* Reference:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/Meetings/2008-feb-11
* People are still not clear on exactly what is required to create
an official "Fedora Spin"
* Need a clear list of guidelines of what a spin owner is
responsible for and what they are required to test
* Hoping a test will come from Jeremy Katz as part of feedback
from release engineering
* We are only talking about spins that use GA packages, thus testing
for GA should have given us enough comfort that risk is minimized
* We only need to be concerned with new combination of packages
that a spin would present
* ACTIONS & OWNERS:
* Paul Frields--followup with Fedora Release Engineering and QA
contingent to discuss testing requirements
* Jef Spaleta to formulate specific guidelines for review prior
to or at next board meeting (dependent on feedback from release engineering)
* '''FOLLOWUP on 2008-02-19'''
* Crux of issue right now is figuring out exactly what input
release engineering is supposed to be giving
* Jef will have a writeup to the board by next meeting
* Paul will be at the Red Hat office in Westford, MA next week and
can sit down and work out any of the remaining details with Jeremy,
Jesse, Will, etc.
* '''FOLLOWUP on 2008-02-26'''
* releng has created
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JeremyKatz/SpinChecklist
* Jef has input from Rahul and plans to start writing a draft
=== Next Meeting ===
* IRC meeting on #fedora-board
* Date: 2008-03-04
* Time: 14:00 EST (1900 UTC)
* OWNER: Paul Frields
* ACTIONS:
1. Paul send to to fab and fedora-announce
1. Set up two IRC channels; one for dialog with board and one to
collect questions
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