2008/2/25, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta@xxxxxxxxx>: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Francesco Ugolini > <fugolini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Since the 1th FAmSCo we organize an Award program starting from an > > Alex Meier (Ambs proj founder) arriving to the last FAmSCo. Yes, i > > agree with a the idea of metrics, as you advice each sub project has > > its metrics, ambassadors project, for his nature, has both a concrete > > (events etc...) and personal metric (leadership in a country, etc...). > > We are a really different project, because ambassadors aren't working > > in the same place and each country has its events, smaller, for > > example, than other one. If we choose a standard metrics we could cut > > those people that, for example, are working great trying to prepare > > online material or trying to organize their country IRC meeting. Not > > only. We decide to use a metrics, how can we measure it for each > > ambassadors? We haven't a tool to measure all ambs activities, both > > live and offline. > > You've described is exactly why its important for each subproject to > decide among themselves how to recognize contributors inside their own > space of the larger Fedora project. You are absolutely right... for > some types of important work we can't get hard metrics. I want them, > the people on the Red Hat side of the fence like Max and Greg want > them.. but we all know we can't always get them. > > I want to have a recognition framework that gives each subproject the > freedom to nominate and recognize individuals in their group in a way > that makes sense to that group. I don't even want to attempt to > compare maintainers to ambassadors in some sort of ill-fitting attempt > to compare people doing these very different things but doing them > exceedingly well. Its apples to oranges...and I love both types of > fruit. > > I want a state fair approach to contributor recognition, not a dog > show approach. I want each the outstanding contributions to each > category..each breed of contribution to get recognized. But I don't > want to have "a best in show" award that gets all the attention and > but is ultimately hollow in terms of serving to inspire the growing > community of contributors to do their best work. > > I want a framework that Red Hat and potentially other entities (and > even community individuals) can seed a small amount of resources into > explicitly for recognition. Maybe in the future its more LWN > subscriptions, or maybe its a gift certificate to Chile's, maybe its a > book on curling strategy. The awards aren't really that important, > compared to having a fair way to stand up people we know are important > and give all of us an opportunity to thank them for doing their best > work and helping us do ours. That's what's important and that sort of > lifting up is only really possible by a group of peers who are in the > trenches together getting stuff done. > > So in that sense what your group is already doing is a great model... > not because of metrics or the lack of them.. but because you've agreed > on a way of making that recognition happen. > > What we need to figure out at the larger Project level is how to build > a framework that we can use to take that sort of recognition to the > next level. So we can take the people each subproject chooses to lift > up and embarrass them by making them externally and internally poster > children for what it means to be a Fedora contributor. > > -jef"Did i mention a book on curling strategy would make an excellent > recognition award... just want to make sure I mentioned that...cuz its > important...books...on curling"spaleta > > I agree with you about the framework idea and what you said about the reason behind an award. Moreover i think, like you, that a recognition don't have to be a problem but it has to be something that could really move community in a certain way, following the best course. Just a question: can this issue be discussed by the Fedora Board? Regards Francesco _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
