On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 20:29 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Red Hat as the copyright holder can do this however IIUC which then can > choose to declare the license of the specs under a permissive license > via a header on the spec files. Wouldn't that solve this issue? Well, let me be more clear (and verbose) about this: What the CLA says: 2. Contributor Grant of License. You hereby grant to Red Hat, Inc., on behalf of the Project, and to recipients of software distributed by the Project: * (a) a perpetual, non-exclusive, worldwide, fully paid-up, royalty free, irrevocable copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute your Contribution and such derivative works; and, * (b) a perpetual, non-exclusive, worldwide, fully paid-up, royalty free, irrevocable (subject to Section 3) patent license to make, have made, use, offer to sell, sell, import, and otherwise transfer your Contribution and derivative works thereof, where such license applies only to those patent claims licensable by you that are necessarily infringed by your Contribution alone or by combination of your Contribution with the work to which you submitted the Contribution. Except for the license granted in this section, you reserve all right, title and interest in and to your Contributions. What this means: You're not assigning copyright to Red Hat, you're merely giving them a copyright license that enables them to "reproduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute your Contribution and such derivative works". You're also giving these same rights to every recipient of your contribution. Now, Red Hat can sublicense the spec files, but the previously granted rights are still granted. So really, what we'd be able to do is say: /*** The license of all otherwise unlicensed Contributions to Fedora from Fedora Contributors (under the Fedora CLA) is as follows: 1. Recipients of this software have: * (a) a perpetual, non-exclusive, worldwide, fully paid-up, royalty free, irrevocable copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute this Contribution and such derivative works; and, * (b) a perpetual, non-exclusive, worldwide, fully paid-up, royalty free, irrevocable (subject to Section 2) patent license to make, have made, use, offer to sell, sell, import, and otherwise transfer this Contribution and derivative works thereof, where such license applies only to those patent claims licensable by the original Contributor that are necessarily infringed by this Contribution alone or by combination of this Contribution with the work to which the Contributor submitted the Contribution. 2. Reciprocity. As of the date any such litigation is filed, this patent grant shall immediately terminate with respect to any party that institutes patent litigation against the Contributor (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit) alleging that this Contribution, or the work to which the Contributor has contributed, constitutes direct or contributory patent infringement. ***/ Why? Because that's what the CLA says. And we can't take that away by default without invalidating the CLA. As I said before, Red Hat (or anyone receiving a copy) could sublicense the spec file, but anyone wishing to could simply choose to ignore that sublicense and instead use the grants given by the CLA to the work. ~spot _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board