Hi, If I use my system all the time with a network connection up that doesn't work [1], can't I just go to the browser prefs and set the default page to about:blank? As always the first choice should be a solution that is most useful for "most" people *and* works for everyone, rather than a pref, but I think a pref is better than a solution that compromises the common/expected case. It really seems to me that when opening an Internet browser, the common/expected case is that I'm on the Internet. Maybe I'm the only person who opens the web browser in order to browse the web? :-P Based on what blizzard said, we do have some real knowledge that lots of people use the default search page in Firefox upstream, so we aren't relying on theory alone to say that when someone opens a new browser window lots of times they're looking to search. Havoc [1] there's no big problem with _offline_ afaik since the DNS fails instantly, the problem is having a network interface up but it doesn't work / has huge latency for some reason, and if the browser had a bug maybe it would lock up in this case instead of letting you press stop. I don't know if it really does this though. It's (conceptually) easy to magically choose the web page if you are online and the local page otherwise if by "online" we mean "you have a network interface up" but if by "online" we mean "your internet actually works" there's no way to query that without waiting for some long timeout, afaik. Assuming the browser does not hang if the network isn't working, then the worst case behavior here doesn't seem catastrophic to me... it will say "can't load start.fedoraproject.org" and then people will be all "oh, I'm not on the Internet, that makes sense." _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board