On 7/23/07, Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
(warning: some of you have seen this rant before)
Well, yes... but keep saying it as it speaks to the core about Red Hat/Fedora relationships etc.
Mike McGrath (mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > What is our target market supposed to be? We don't have one! Seriously, I have yet to see anything that shows that we have a coherent market, a plan for attack, or *anything* along those lines. So, we muddle along. Since no one has a plan or a target market, we implement whatever features the developers happen to think of, or random features vaguely relating to future enterprise development. Or we just incorporate the latest upstream. Since no one has a plan, and we don't target any market, we never have dedicated resources to do large amounts of cross distro work. So, we continue to have things like system-config-network and NetworkManager working in direct conflict for going on how many releases now? Since no one has a plan, and we don't target any market, we just continue to ship the same-old same-old distribution. Development tools? Gotta have those, they were there before? Two or three desktops? Well, wouldn't want to lose any users. And we need all the servers too. Whatever you can say about Ubuntu, they had a coherent, directed, plan, and they executed. We have no user-visible plan, and I think it shows.
For me the lack of Red Hat leadership has been a long problem. It comes across as "we want this to be community driven." but that ends up with a problem whenever some internal issue crosses it. Most of this comes from the Red Hat people really trying to be nice guys all the time, and not tick off anyone.. but it comes across as hidden agendas and other issues. At this point, I think we will be stumbling through F8 and probably F9 unless some people stand up and make some decisions that are going to tick off people... or we decide that we are just focusing on becoming the Debian of the RH world... and helping others build their Ubuntus off of it.
Right now we don't have any overriding set of goals. So we never really say 'no, that isn't what we want Fedora to do' to anything that fits our simple 'uses open source, isn't completely targeted to obsolete things' mantra, and we attempt to do all of these things... which means we'll probably fail at all of them.
Yes. We can't do everything, but we dont seem to want to say no. Burnout city. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
