On 7/19/07, Tom spot Callaway <tcallawa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 14:04 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Tom spot Callaway (tcallawa@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > > > Is helping desktop users outside of the ideology of Fedora? > > > > I would argue that we're not helping them when they end up with > > proprietary junk on their system. > > > > Users may not care. We care. > > See: firmware. Oh wait, we like that! I don't like the fact that we have to have firmware without source. However, firmware is a far more necessary evil than enabling Windows Media file support. Firmware is also something that should've been done on the hardware in a perfect world, WMV support is a little different.
It really isn't that different; hardware I can't boot is only minimally different from hardware I can boot but can't use with the data I need/want to access. And whether or not firmware is software or not is completely, totally irrelevant; it is modifiable and it impacts how people control and use their computers and their data. That makes it a freedom issue. You can hide it under semantic blankets if it makes you feel better, but you *have* made a strategic compromise of user freedom in order to help users. The sooner you figure out how to draw real and meaningful boundaries around that compromise instead of bullshit like 'it isn't software, so therefore it is alright', the better off we'll all be. As soon as you have *meaningful* lines instead of semantic hedges, you can actually start to answer questions about things like codecs in a meaningful way, instead of having a dramatic and surreal dance around the issues every time it comes up, as it is about to (again) around non-free web services, and already has with drivers, firmware, codecs, etc., etc. Luis _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
