On 05.06.2007 20:47, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> from looking at the F7-feedback I saw on the lists, in reviews, in blogs >> and in other places I more and more think it was a failure to not do a >> CD version of the "Fedora" spins. >> >> Seems people are quite unhappy; the two main reasons afaics are: >> >> * people did not realize yet to use the Live-CD for installs >> >> * updates from FC6 to F7 are not possible with Live-CDs; thus people >> that don't own a DVD reader can only update via network based installs, >> with is not that well known (is that documented somewhere probably), >> error-pone and require a internet router (which not everybody owns; I >> for example would not be able to update by home server, because that's >> my internet router (via PPPoe and a DSL-Modem) and it has only a CD >> reader (sure, I did a yum update ;-) )) > > I think the "right" way to solve the problems are > * Enable "live" upgrades to be done better You mean with yum? Or with Live-CDs? I assume the further; gets a "+1" from me. > * Get yum-presto up and running by default Well, I'm not sure it's a big help for dist-upgrades. Where to create the binary-data-diff from? From F(relase-1) or F((relase-1)+updates at relase time)? > * Look into integrating jidgo. Well, where is the benefit as long as we don't ship Fedora spin CD's? > Even if we provide people CD versions of the "Fedora" spins they don't > contain all the packages and some people are bound to be unhappy with that. That's the same problem with the Fedora DVD Spin as long as we don't ship a Everything Spin (and is one more reasons for a kind of internet yum update with some magic around it) CU knurd _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board