Re: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise

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On 5/2/07, Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ralf Corsepius wrote:

 > On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 08:21 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 >> Alexandre Oliva wrote:
 >>
 >> >> Atleast in Fedora the division is clearly documented in the
 >> >> packaging guidelines.
 >> >
 >> > Which is and has always been incompatible with the stated
 >> > goals of the Fedora project.
 >>
 >> It may be worth pointing out here that Fedora currently only includes
 >> objectives/packaging-guidelines to be opensource/redistributable, not
 >> necessarily (100%) free,
 >
 > This sentence of yours doesn't match with current practices:
...
 > The goal of The Fedora Project is to work with the Linux community to
 > build a complete, general purpose operating system exclusively from
 > open source software.

I fail to see any mismatch: I said opensource, the "goal" says
opensource.  Unless you're trying to extend this goal to firmware, but
we'd already (hopefully) established clearly that this is an *exception*.

 > => The firmware packages do not fall under this definition.

Right, since *firm*ware != *soft*ware and was the point of my "doesn't
run on host-cpu" qualifier.  The rest I pretty much agree with, and
certainly in a perfect world we'd all love 100% opensource firmware too.


I think the difference between firm and soft is non-existant in some
eyes. If it is a bit, it must be documented and must be hackable. I
don't think that any debate/reasonable questions would change this
world-view.


--
Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator
How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed
in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"

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