On 3/19/07, Jonathan Blandford <jrb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 15:36 -0400, Max Spevack wrote: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Luis Villa wrote: > > > The repeated slippage of release dates, and recent discussions about > > 'must have' features for the next release, make me suspect that Fedora > > has no answers to the question, or at least none that are any better > > than Debian's. Fedora may not value democracy over the product, but it > > doesn't seem to have replaced democracy with anything that is decisively > > better for the product. > > My take on slipping release dates. We *always* slip. But then again, > almost all software projects do. > > This is because we start out by saying we want to try to do the release > every 6 months. And that can guarantee that it happens in 7 or 8, because > the physical act of slipping the release causes some level of shame and > urgency. > > If we just said at the beginning 7 months, then I think we'd *still* end > up slipping, and it would really be 8 or 9 months. Saying that we always slip seems to be a self fulfilling prophesy for Fedora.
I think that this is correct. It is probably the one thing that I know as true from the days of 4.2 and way before. You set the schedule, and then you silently add the extra 2-3 weeks that you know you will need because thats the way its always been. When I first got there the developers were working hard on this or that.. but the word was 'well we are just going to slip a bit.'. It is always something.. glibc needs a tweak, wait a week and we will ahve an X update, we almost made the KDE release date... etc etc. .....
If we really wanted to do time-base releases, the MustHaves page would just say: "Is it April 26th yet?"
... I feel an extremely strong feeling of dejavu here.
and we'd work backwards from there. Barring doing something that radical (which GNOME does, to somewhat mixed results), I bet we always slip a couple months, every release. Thanks, -Jonathan _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
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