On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 23:15 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > Then look at PPC. How can you expect me to believe that taking an arch > > that _already_ has storage and ISOs and just dropping that off of > > fedoraproject.org because the buildsys can now send out shadow builds is > > progress? > > I think that trying to lump PPC in here has perhaps made the issue a > little bit more muddled. So ignore PPC for a minute -- does this not > start to improve things for arches like sparc? It's not the whole > answer, but it's a start. Yes, it _does_ look like a step in the right direction. In the long term; when the dust has settled and it actually works. > For PPC, things are a little bit more complicated and it's really just a > matter of how much demand the platform is seeing vs the effort required > to sustain it. So does it make things less good for ppc? Definitely. Very much so. On the other hand, if we revisit the question in time for FC8 _after_ we test the process by bringing Aurora into the fold, then it doesn't have to be such a retrograde step for PPC. > But the impetus isn't the existence of secondary arches and shoving the > round peg in the square hole. Instead, it's the fact that the number of > ppc downloads is very small and the community of people actively testing > and fixing things is quite small. Nevertheless, it was my impression that FC6 was the best release we've done on PowerPC so far -- so much so that when I managed to snatch some time to work on FC6 before its release I actually ended up doing Bluetooth stuff rather than anything PPC-specific. FC7 will be even better, and will have support for a set of new and interesting hardware. > If your question is just "why don't the bits end up on fp.org", the > reason is purely one of "we're not attacking that problem first". And > realistically, setting the expectation that we're not going to solve > that problem in the next six months is a far better thing to do IMHO. I agree. Although the proposed ArchPolicy is a good idea in principle, it's going to take time to put it into practice, and there are a _number_ of things that realistically speaking we just aren't going to solve in the next six months. So please, let's not hold the FC7/PowerPC release hostage to those solutions. -- dwmw2 _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board-readonly mailing list fedora-advisory-board-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board-readonly
