On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thursday 13 July 2006 14:24, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > If we can't even allow *free redistribution* of the logo, then how can we > > allow *free modification and redistribution*? The answer is, WE CAN'T. > > To repeat: NONE OF THE CURRENT OSS/CC LICENSES APPLY. PERIOD. > > Does this mean that Fedora is not redistributable? Wasn't that one of the > major goals of Fedora? A fair question. We do essentially grant a "license" of sorts for redistribution of the logo, and they can be found in our trademark guidelines, here: http://fedora.redhat.com/About/legal/trademarks/guidelines/page4.html This license means that Fedora, *as we ship it*, is fully redistributable. But if you change the content, you must lose the logo, because shipping altered content violates the terms of usage of the logo. This is a reasonable compromise, IMHO, but this *particular* flavor of compromise leaves no room to play with the logo. At all. There is another reasonable compromise: 1. Come up with a "protected" logo that ships with FCn, and really anywhere we need to emphasize the strong relationship between RH and Fedora. 2. Apply the aforementioned guidelines to the "protected" logo. 3. "Free" the current logo. 4. Grant broader rights to the "free" logo via a CC license. Apparently, not everyone thinks that this compromise is as reasonable as I do. So it goes. But without such a compromise, we have to play serious hardball in all matters logo-related, and it adds a lot of overhead to our community building efforts. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board-readonly mailing list fedora-advisory-board-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board-readonly