Based on recent discussions, I think it is going to be a non-starter for me to further encourage the use of the physical, CollabNet-based platform that Developer Nation is running on at devnation.redhat.com. I'm not entirely withdrawing the offer, but I no longer recommend it. The Developer Nation brand is another thing, though. Red Hat is going to put considerable effort into this, and the idea of the brand separates it a bit from "Red Hat Foo Bar Baz". Thus ... I propose that we extend Developer Nation's non-borders to include Fedora and begin work on putting up a FLOSS collaboration suite[1] at devnation.fedoraproject.org. We lose everything from single-sign and database sharing with devnation.redhat.com, but that probably matters less than it appears. After all, hyperlinking still works. :) The Developer Nation idea is nation without borders because we are trying to dissolve traditional barriers to community and collaboration that corporate walls create. In that sense, Fedora is not already within the Developer Nation, but is actually one of the leaders we all need to watch and embrace. My proposal is to formalize that relationship and wrap infrastructure around it. If you do want to take advantage of Red Hat's offer in this case, I'll continue work on resolving how to make *.devnation.fedoraproject.org do the right thing. If we want to proceed with identifying and starting up a collaboration suite, I volunteer to be on that committee and make it happen. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Editor * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 Fedora Documentation Project http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject Learn. Network. Experience open source. Red Hat Summit Nashville | May 30 - June 2, 2006 Learn more: http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/
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