Hi When I tried "Ctrl Ctrl Ctrl Alt+Del" in this configuration, I was able to send "Ctrl+Alt+Del" without trouble. Therefore, I decline applying this patch. Thank you for advice. Thanks, Masayuki Sunou In message <20070508004731.GC11353@xxxxxxxxxx> "Re: [et-mgmt-tools] [PATCH][RESEND] Send [Ctrl+Alt+Del] and [F8]" ""Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx>" wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:11:19AM +0900, Masayuki Sunou wrote: > > > > In message <200704261356.FJE18291.K793ENG2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > "Re: [et-mgmt-tools] [PATCH][RESEND] Send [Ctrl+Alt+Del] and [F8]" > > "Masayuki Sunou <fj1826dm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" wrote: > > > > "Hugh Brock <hbrock@xxxxxxxxxx>" wrote: > > > > > Thanks for this, but I guess I still don't understand what the reasoning > > > for it is. > > > > > > In both RHEL 5 and Fedora 6, it is possible to pass Ctrl+Alt+Del to a > > > guest simply by pressing Ctrl Ctrl Ctrl Alt+Del, if the console has > > > keyboard grab in effect. Both the Ctrl and Alt keys can be made sticky > > > by pressing them three times. So there's really no need for a special > > > Ctrl+Alt+Del button. > > > > > > To send f8, it's not even necessary to use a sticky key; you just click > > > the console window and press f8. > > > > > > If this isn't working for you, it's a bug and we need to fix it. Please > > > let me know if it is! > > > > > Hi > > > > First, I think the next composition. > > > > Client Machine > > +--------------+ > > | +--------+ | > > | | VNC | | > > | | Viewer | | > > | +--------+ | > > +-------|------+ > > | > > Management Machine | > > +------------------|------------------+ > > | +--------+ | > > | | VNC | | > > | | Server | | > > | +--------+ | > > | | | > > | +--------------+ | > > | | virt-manager | | > > | +--------------+ | > > | | | > > | +----------+----------+ | > > | | | | | > > | +-------+ +-------+ +-------+ | > > | |Virtual| |Virtual| |Virtual| | > > | |machine| |machine| |machine| | > > | +-------+ +-------+ +-------+ | > > | | > > +-------------------------------------+ > > > > In this composition, when VNC Viewer of Client Machine can not send > > Ctrl+Alt+Del the user cannot send Ctrl+Atl+Del to Virtual Machine. > > I've just tested this configuration and using the 'sticky' keys > I was able to pass Ctrl-Alt-Del to the guest simply by entering > 'Ctrl Ctrl Ctrl Alt+Del' in the console window. I tested this > both running virt-manager on my local machine, and remotely over > VNC as you illustrate in the diagram above. > > I can't remember if I've mentioned it on the list before, but I've > also got prototype code which will remove the need for sticky keys > by changing the key local keyboard grab works. This will let us > intercept even squences like Ctrl+Alt+Del and Ctrl+Alt+F1 > > > However, when Virt-manager has the button which sends Ctrl+Alt+Del, > > the user can send Ctrl+Alt+Del to Virtual Machine. (Even if the user > > used any kind of VNC Viewer) > > > > Therefore, I think that virt-manager has better have the button which > > sends Ctrl+Alt+Del. > > Having buttons for certain special key sequences isn't a scale UI paradigm > because every client has a different set of 'special' key sequences it > cares about. The only viable solution really is to make sure that the local > keyboard grab is working correctly. Currently we are able to grab the key > board in such a way that makes sure we get every key sequence except for > those beginning Ctrl+Alt. > > I can't remember if I've mentioned it on the list before, but I've > also got prototype code which will remove the need for sticky keys > by changing the key local keyboard grab works. This will let us > intercept even squences like Ctrl+Alt+Del and Ctrl+Alt+F1. > > The addition of remote management capabilities in virt-manager will also > remove the need to run virt-manager via VNC. > > Regards, > Dan. > -- > |=- Red Hat, Engineering, Emerging Technologies, Boston. +1 978 392 2496 -=| > |=- Perl modules: http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ -=| > |=- Projects: http://freshmeat.net/~danielpb/ -=| > |=- GnuPG: 7D3B9505 F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 -=| > > _______________________________________________ > et-mgmt-tools mailing list > et-mgmt-tools@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/et-mgmt-tools >
