Re: VLC via EPEL vs via RPMFUSION

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Hi Dominik, thanks for your reply.


Am 09.01.24 um 10:16 schrieb Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski:
Hello, Leon.

On Monday, 08 January 2024 at 17:18, Leon Fauster via epel-devel wrote:
Hi all,

it seems that VLC is in EPEL9 now. Looks like some license changes
allows packaging some multimedia stuff now. I noticed also the
new epel-cisco-openh264 repo.

Unfortunately, I'm not involved in the upstream/Fedora discussions.
So, I miss some kind of documentation. A look into Fedoras Wiki also
doesn't show any article that explains the current status/motivation
/limitations of such components and their differences to RPMFUSIONs
one.  Also the concept of "freeworld" packages is unclear (at least to
me).

What kind of documentation would you like to see? What exact questions
woud you like to see answered in such documentation?



I used documentation with a lightweight sense. Mainly I had something in mind that would help the "user" and/or the foreign developer (non rpm dev) to catch up with the current changes in the EL "ecosystem".

For instance, a recent change in the epel-release package [1] could be further highlighted with this Wiki entry (albeit more focused on fedora linux) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenH264

There should be no detailed documentation about this, but the wiki
entry gives at least an idea whats going on.

Regarding the VLC restructuring I can't find anything (until today I
wasn't subscribed to rpmfusion lists for some reason , my fault, but
I'm now). And I do not see any change-request for inclusion into Fedora
(maybe I'm not so familiar with such process).

So, IMHO a "Multimedia" Wiki entry that highlights the current efforts
would be a great help in this aspects. Especially, the coming
compartmentation of functionality (codecs) via plugins provided by
both "repos".






Some RPMFUSION packages were in conflict with the new packages in
epel- testing. Currently, the conflicts are resolved but the
epel-testing packages would overwrite the ones installed from
RPMFUSION now (someone stated no assurance for such repo
compatibility).

Perfect coordination is, unfortunately, not possible. Even if we pushed
the packages to testing and to stable repos at the same time in both
Fedora and RPM Fusion, there will still be delays due to mirroring.



Sure, for that reason I take actively a look into the impacts of enabling the testing repos. So, its good to have this layer.



Any pointers to sources/docs/threads that explains the new strategies
and activities or any other suggestions to read would be greatly
appreciated.

I did a presentation on this topic at a local conference last year, but
it seems they haven't put it online yet. I'll try to post my slides when
I find them at least.


That would be for sure interesting to read!




BTW, do the RPMFUSION and Fedora Devs coordinate such overlap? Where?

We usually do it over bugzilla[1] and e-mail[2]. Sometimes on IRC[3] and
Matrix[4].

"We" here means the Multimedia SIG:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Multimedia_SIG


Not sure if I could help out in this SIG. Especially or mainly for the EL branch.

--
Thanks,
Leon



[1] https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2023-1e3199f53c
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