Re: Timeframe for EPEL retirement vs RHEL new package releases

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On 03/03/2023 15:33, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 06:55:46AM -0800, Troy Dawson wrote:
We are currently in the middle of changing the workflow of retiring these
packages.  We are changing it so that the package maintainer doesn't do the
removing.  It will be automated, or semi-automated, so there is a
consistent time when all of them are removed.
That's a good idea.

When do you actually remove the packages from the EPEL repository?
It has been agreed that it will be after both Alma and Rocky have their
latest release out.
Ok, that's good, and should at least avoid breaking my upstream CI
use case since our containers should transparently start receiving
the 9.2 content when Alma releases their rebuilt container iamges.

But how long after?
Immediately after?  a month? 6 months?

I personally am leaning towards a month after.
Here is my reasoning.
At the time a new RHEL release is released, we take a snapshot of the EPEL
repo and put it in the archives.
So all the packages that were built, and run on RHEL 9.1 are available in
that archive.
snip

Anyway, if some users are still doing new installs of RHEL 9.1 (or
compatible) after that month, then they should probably add the epel 9.1
archive to their yum repositories.
That's interesting, I didn't know about the y-stream archive
snapshots.

Is there any mileage in considering a way to make the use of the epel
9.1 archive automatic so users don't have risk of breakage needing manual
reconfiguration to keep working ?

eg perhaps have 2 yum repos provided and enabled by epel-release. One
repo URL always the latest release and one repo URL always the current
9.x release number, with a lower priority number set. The latter repo
initially empty of packages, but at the start of 9.2 it receives the
snapshot of 9.1 content, and so becomes dominent over the former repo
which will henceforth be holding 9.2 content.

With regards,
Daniel
Is this one of those cases where it would be better not to use an el9 package suffix but something alphanumerically lower than el9, then Redhat's packages would always take priority if they come along?

Nick
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