Re: EPEL9 Rollout Proposals

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On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 1:32 PM Troy Dawson <tdawson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> In our last EPEL Steering Committee meeting, Carl brought up a new proposal for our epel9 / epel9-next rollout.  Sometimes IRC isn't the best way to explain things like that, it got a little confusing.  Carl and I had a good video chat to clean up confusion and talk about some pros and cons of the various proposals.
> Here are the three proposals.
>
> * PLAN A
> Plan A is basically what we've been working towards for the past couple of months.
> - launch epel9-next now-ish (ideally aligned with c9s launch promotion)
> - After RHEL9 goes GA
> -- perform a mass branch and mass rebuild to populate epel9
> -- launch epel9 after RHEL9 GA is launched.
>
> ** Plan A Pros:
> - epel9-next and epel9 are only set up once, and not changed
> - ready to go now
>
> ** Plan A Cons:
> - complexity and added work of mass branch and mass rebuild
> - mass rebuild will have a moderate rate of failure due to buildroot differences (unshipped devel packages)
> - epel9 not available at rhel9 ga
> - confusing messaging to packagers:
> -- target epel9-next for ~6 months
> -- after epel9 exists target that instead, only use epel9-next when needed
> - confusing messaging to users:
> -- use epel9-next now for c9s and rhel9 beta
> -- use epel9-next temporarily at rhel9 launch but don’t leave it enabled
> -- use epel9 primarily once it exists
>
>
> * PLAN B
> - epel9-next stays the way it is currently setup.
> - Setup epel9 using RHEL9 Beta for the buildroot.
> -- Pull in any errata as it comes.
> -- Use the repos you would for RHEL9 GA: AppStream, BaseOS, CRB
> - Launch epel9 and epel9-next together (In 1-2 weeks).
> - When RHEL9 GA is released, switch epel9 buildroot from RHEL9 Beta to RHEL9 GA
>
> ** Plan B Pros:
> - simple messaging to packagers:
> -- epel9 is the primary target, use epel9-next only when needed (same as epel8-next)
> - simple messaging to users:
> -- use epel9 everywhere (epel-next-release is a recommends on c9s)
> - no mass branching
> - no mass rebuild
> - No confusion from using the full CentOS Stream buildroot
> -- epel9 buildroot will only have AppStream, BaseOS and CRB
>
> ** Plan B Cons:
> - potential for large divergence between rhel9 beta and ga
> - changing our messaging right before the launch
>
>
> * PLAN C
> - epel9-next stays the way it is currently setup.
> - setup up epel9 using c9s for the buildroot
> -- Use the repos you would for RHEL9: AppStream, BaseOS, CRB
> - freeze epel9 buildroot before c9s switches to 9.1 content
> - launch epel9 and epel9-next together (1-2 weeks)
> - switch epel9 buildroot from frozen c9s to rhel9 ga later
>
> ** Plan C Pros:
> - simple messaging to packagers:
> -- epel9 is the primary target, use epel9-next only when needed (same as epel8-next)
> - simple messaging to users:
> -- use epel9 everywhere (epel-next-release is a recommends on c9s)
> - no mass branching
> - no mass rebuild
> - No confusion from using the full CentOS Stream buildroot
> -- epel9 buildroot will only have AppStream, BaseOS and CRB
>
> ** Plan C Cons:
> - potential infrastructure complexity of freezing the epel9 buildroot
> - changing our messaging right before the launch
>
>
> Please let us know what you think.
> If we do choose to go with Plan B or C we will need to make the decision fairly quickly.
>
> Troy
>
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Closing the loop here, at the 2021-11-24 EPEL Steering Committee
meeting we voted and selected plan C.

https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/epel/epel.2021-11-24-21.00.html

We are in the process of finishing up the EPEL9 implementation and
plan to launch EPEL9 and EPEL9 Next together with a formal
announcement very soon.  Until then you may notice parts of that
implementation coming online (repositories, release packages, etc.)
but we recommend waiting until the announcement for official
instructions.

-- 
Carl George
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