Re: blivet-gui announcement

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On Sep 5, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 15:55 +0200, Vratislav Podzimek wrote:
>> On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 09:04 -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> Good news, everyone! We (me and CC'd Vojtech Trefny) would like to
>>>> introduce you the next generation tool for storage management -- the
>>>> **blivet-gui** tool [1]_. It is a GUI tool based on the blivet python
>>>> library (originally Anaconda's storage management and configuration
>>>> tool) inspired by GParted and other storage management tools. Why not
>>>> use GParted you ask?
>>> 
>>> Actually my question is "why not gnome-disk-utility?" :)
>> Because it doesn't work well with LVM, RAID, BTRFS and a combination of
>> them.
> 
> Leaving LVM out was an explicit decision, because of all the system
> integration problems with LVM.

OK but then this answers the question "why not gdu?" because LVM is the default on Fedora.

For mortal users, and I'd argue that's most Workstation users, LVM is unfriendly and complicated to learn, therefore and realizes no benefit. Yet this would be very different if there were a GUI tool to leverage what LVM can do, without having to learn esoteric LVM stuff. Like adding a drive so the existing /home can be grown, or mirrored. Or live migrate a system to a replacement drive.


> It works fine with RAID and btrfs as far
> as I know. Do you have any concrete complaints about the RAID or btrfs
> support in gnome-disk-utility ?



Goes back to 2010, "add Btrfs support to gdu/palimpsest" Understandably gdu wants better kernel support for multiple device btrfs volumes to know what physical devices are being used. In the meantime blivet deals with this issues itself and support multiple device creation and destruction correctly.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=608204

"btrfs snapshot and subvolume support" I'm not seeing a way to list, create, or delete subvolumes and snapshots. Or map multiple subvolumes to mountpoints. Blivet does this.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710156

Similar to gdu, blivet doesn't currently support btrfs multiple device modification such as resizing, or device add/delete. Or initiate scrubs, either for btrfs or md/mdadm raid.



Chris Murphy

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