RE: BZ 1094856: screen redesign idea

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again, you are bringing an unrelated issue into this thread.


Sent from my phone, which is not an iphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Felix Miata
Date:07/30/2014 1:36 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: anaconda-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: BZ 1094856: screen redesign idea

On 2014-07-29 15:25 (GMT-0400) Máirín Duffy composed:

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> ...them thinking to make things bigger rather than having more
>> things on screen at once.

> whitespace is important to establish relationships between
> elements and make a lot of information easier to understand / digest.

Whitespace may be "important", but shouldn't come at the expense of content
legibility. Here there is too much of this "important" thing, as I hope the
following will understandably demonstrate:

Non-contextual screenshots made by Anaconda/F21TC2:
running 1024x768:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-SofSel-0768vr-Sg520.png
running 1280x1024:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-InsDes-1024vr-Sg520.png
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-ManPar-1024vr-Sg520.png
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-SelDis-1024vr-Sg520.png
running 1600x1200:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-InsDes-1200vr-D2000fp.png
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-ManPar-1200vr-D2000fp.png
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-SelDis-1200vr-D2000fp.png
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-SofSel-1200vr-D2000fp.png

What do they tell anyone? Not a thing about legibility, because display
density is unknown, and thus how big physically a pixel or the screen is is
also unknown. Viewing context is missing a crucial component.

These are the same 1600x1200 images inserted into a context:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-InsDes-1200vr-132dpi.png
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-ManPar-1200vr-132dpi.png
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-SelDis-1200vr-132dpi.png
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fedora/anacondaSS-f21t2-SofSel-1200vr-132dpi.png

Contextual attributes:

1-display density is given as 132 DPI (137.5% of the industry yardstick that
is the basis for the CSS px unit definition, 96 DPI), modestly above whatever
"normal" might be, well below what display manufacturers and vendors describe
as "high resolution" or "high density", with names like "Retina" and
"UltraSharp".

2-The image viewer is displaying those images at 100% of intrinsic size on an
F21 installation on the same system and using the same displays on which
Anaconda was run for capturing most of the first group of images. The desktop
is personalized for this user, so you have the context of the system in
normal action, with menu text open, font settings open, Firefox open, and a
calculator utility, all for contextual comparison to the installation image.

3-Each image has a "yardstick", a tool you can use as a basis to adjust the
physical size of the image on your screen so that you can very closely
emulate the experience here trying to use Anaconda. All that's required of
you is to open each image in a viewer with which you can make the included 1"
image 25.4mm wide measuring it with a ruler on your screen.

So, regardless of your display's size or resolution or density, you can
emulate what is happening here, and know a major reason if not the biggest
reason why I don't like Anaconda. Notwithstanding its other attributes, and
all its "important" whitespace, it falls far short of being user friendly on
the basis of its marginal legibility even at common display density, plus
lack of any appreciable way (that I've been able to discover) to improve
legibility.

>> Clickable link omitted from OP:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094856

> ?

BZ 1094856 in a plain text email is not a clickable link. To see what it
refers to requires getting Bugzilla open in something, then copy & paste or
type it in to find out what it's about.

URI you quoted above is a clickable link in every GUI email program's plain
text display mode that I've ever used, a convenient one step process.
--
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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