On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 11:35 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Please take discussions like these to the installer development list; > fedora-devel is too broad a list to discuss mintuae like this I think. > > choosing the destination is scary, since people know there are some > > steps might wipe the entire disk, the screen below needs a way to gently > > tell the user that this step is not scare "the monster is not in this step" +100 to this point. I'm not sure if I ever sent out the email with my impressions of installing Fedora 18, but this was the main point. I was installing to an dual-boot machine, and I had backed up my important files to the windows drive and partition. There was nothing too important on it, but at the same time, I didn't want to *lose* it. I've been lurking on the anaconda-devel list for years now, and I feel like I know the anaconda developers as well as I know many of my co-workers (I've certainly known you guys for longer than many of my co-workers, even though you have no idea who I am). More importantly, I trust in the good judgement of the anaconda developers, and their abilities, and have looked at a good chunk of the anaconda code over the years. Even with this trust and knowledge, I was still worried *as hell*, that every click of the mouse in the storage spoke would do something irretrievably awful, like wipe my windows partition. I think the trepidation comes from the "Hub and Spoke" model. It's an entirely new paradigm in OS installation (as far as I know), and the idea of operations happening in parallel, while welcome, is so far from the comfort zone of even people experienced with anaconda and OS installation in general that it introduces an almost irrational fear. In short, in the storage spoke, can you put a note on every pane saying what action clicking the "Continue" button will trigger, and what, if any permanent effects will result. If there are no permanent effects of clicking "Continue", please indicate that, as well. I know this seems awfully repetitive, but I think it would help people to accept this radically different approach. For those of you that need a happy ending, Fedora 18 Anaconda is actually far better than any previous version. I have a very weird disk setup in my desktop (boot off of sdb, OS partitions on sdb, and most data on sda), and where most Fedora installs would be subtly broken, Fedora 18 has been running flawlessly. Kudos to everyone who worked so hard on this. Matt > > > > http://i.minus.com/jWQMDfIBvDHZZ.png > > That's a fair point. > > > later steps should *tell* the user what to do > > eg. delete a partition then activate auto partitioning > > or create an ext4 mounted as / > > > > always tell the user what is the problem and how can he/she fix it > > Unfortunately, Anaconda can't read the user's mind as to what the user > is looking to achieve, but if you aren't trying to do something advanced > or complicated you'll be led through the guided installation path which > is very well documented and has a lot of explanatory language to guide > the user through. I noticed you didn't include screenshots of any of that. > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Anaconda-devel-list mailing list > Anaconda-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/anaconda-devel-list _______________________________________________ Anaconda-devel-list mailing list Anaconda-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/anaconda-devel-list
