On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 02:34 -0500, Martin Gracik wrote: > I actually like Radek's panel applet. It is very familiar for me, not like some other confusing network setup dialog I've never seen before. > Maybe we could make the whole installer look more like desktop, that could be interesting. If we go with the applet approach, would it make sense for loader to start a session manager and panel in addition to anaconda? The session would be preconfigured to start a certain panel configuration, along with auto-starting anaconda? The reason I suggest this is that the built-in applet approach will make less sense when running anaconda on a live system that already has a desktop session, panel and applets. So the question is, should we converge on the experience by instead moving the panel and session into the DVD/CD install experience? Thanks, James > ----- "Brian C. Lane" <bcl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:38:54PM +0100, Radek Vykydal wrote: > > > On 11/17/2010 11:18 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > > >On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 01:33:20PM +0100, Radek Vykydal wrote: > > > >>Hi list, > > > >> > > > >>this is another take on network enablement/configuration UI in > > anaconda. > > > >>It follows first take: > > > > > >>https://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2010-October/msg00201.html > > > >>the point of which was to offer functionality that NetworkManager > > Applet > > > >>does in desktop environment - overview of available devices, its > > > >>status, available APs for wireless, activate/disconnect device > > controls. > > > >I don't like the panel/applet method. I feels like a kludge to me. > > I'm > > > >also not a big fan of how we are doing it currently, but I think > > popping > > > >up a network dialog is much better than expecting the user to click > > on the > > > >applet. > > > > > > > > > > Why does it feel like a kludge? It's just the network > > > configuration/enablement done the same way as in the > > > desktop/installed system. I don't dare to estimate how > > > users would see it - is it intuitive enough, isn't it too > > > much of surprise? I am talking about it with MÃirÃn. > > > For me the applet solution seems pretty clean and simple, > > > but it is probably because I am already using Fedora. > > > > The installer isn't the desktop, so to me panels and applets don't > > fit. > > I realize we have moved in a direction that requires us to use these, > > but I don't think they fit. It seems to me that we're painting > > ourselves > > into a corner by depending on NetworkManager during the install. > > Maybe > > NM needs a better API to control these things without the need for > > the > > applet? > > > > (NOTE: I do realize that I'm complaining without have any better > > solutions, sorry about that). > > > > -- > > Brian C. Lane | Anaconda Team | IRC: bcl #anaconda | Port Orchard, WA > > (PST8PDT) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Anaconda-devel-list mailing list > > Anaconda-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/anaconda-devel-list > > _______________________________________________ > Anaconda-devel-list mailing list > Anaconda-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/anaconda-devel-list
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