Re: [Fwd: Fedora 12 Installer Experience]

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Hi,

Jesse thanks for the forward, Jason thanks for the input,
see my comments below.

On 11/18/2009 05:28 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
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Subject: Fedora 12 Installer Experience
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:21:07 -0600

Originally sent this to mccann for private review but jrb and halfline
asked that I send it here. I don't mean to offend anyone; mccann asked
that I document my experience -- I'm coming from Debian Sid/Exp. so I
don't have a horse the desktop race.
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I'm writing this from my phone while I wait for the install to finish. I
will send another mail documenting first boot experience.

The notes are with a newbie in-mind and only the notable hang-ups; the
experience is, overall, good.

Pre-install: no reason given for a media test and no time estimate
before agreeing.


Hmm, yes I had a question about this on #anacando too, maybe we should
let media check always default to off, this esp. seems to make sense
for the pressed (not burned) dvd's we are handing out at conferences.

We could then add a separate syslinux.cfg entry which passes in
the media check option, so that people who burn themselves can still
use this without needing to resort to the syslinux cmdline


Install:
Storage probe>  existing encrypted drive found: no offer to skip unlock.
Use of OK/Cancel dialog buttons.


That seems like a valid complaint to me, please file a bug against anaconda
for this.

Set hostname: no indication that using the same suffix like
"localdomain" might be a good thing. Happily allows suffixless.


Not sure about this, but file a bug against anaconda anyways, then David
(our network guy) can think about this and just close it if he wants.

Map/TZ widget: doesn't fill dialog size.


Hmm, Ive not noticed this a screenshot would help here.

Root password: no offer for sudo setup


That would not be something to do from this screen, but setting up sudo
for the user added from the add user dialog in firstboot would be a good idea,
please file an RFE for this against firstboot.

Partitioner: no indication that LVM and RAID buttons are for new only.
"Hide LVM/RAID" doesn't work.


The partitioning UI has been revamped for F-13, and this should be much
clearer now.

Boot loader: no explanation of what a boot loader is. Use of sdx block
names (some discoverability in Change Dev. dialog)


Hmm, if you can suggest concrete improvements / a mockup of how this could
be done better concretely we might take over some of your suggestions.

Repos/software: no indication that offered additional repos. are remote
or explanation why you would enable them. No progress on metadata fetch.
Why would any Windows user not enable the Updates here? Is that
safe/fast?


This is a bit of a difficult topic, probably best discussed in its own
thread, I'm a favor of not having the updates repo available with just
a single checkbox, as using it during the install should work, but is
not tested / guaranteed. Also when not doing a network install, enabling
it will slow down the install significantly. So maybe we should only offer
this on a network install.

Starting Install: long wait with no estimate.

There is a "wait" dialog there right, so what you miss is a progress bar ?

Regards,

Hans

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