And writing to a file should block other applications from writing to the same file at the same time. Otherwise how do you know which version of the file is correct.
On Feb 1, 2014 9:50 PM, "ChaosEsque Team" <chaosesqueteam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The unix way is that "everything is a file". /dev/dsp follows this idea.
You write your output to the file, and there you go.
The BSDs follow this. It's thought of the "OSS" way because OSS got there first
and got to be the DigitalSignalProcessor , rather than some other
pack of drivers.
When Alsa is running, IT should be /dev/dsp .Not some hack to
perfectly emulate the old OSS. There is no reason why /dev/dsp shouldn't
go through dmix when alsa is being used. It is a design decision
to make /dev/dsp look bad and depreciated.
What I think should be the case does matter a little bit.
What my friend thought should be the case does matter a little bit.
So on and so on. /dev/dsp should just work with the default.
And if it doesn't there should be a way to configure it as such, there is not.
It is absolute bullshit that /dev/dsp doe not mix. Bullshit. It's been bullshit for
10 years.
Windows and Mac have had nonblocking sound forever, before linux.
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On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus <beojan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Subject: Re: OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.
To: "ChaosEsque Team" <chaosesqueteam@xxxxxxxxx>, alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014, 1:39 PM
What you think should be the
case doesn't really matter. The difference between Linux
and other *nix systems is that generally they use OSS as
they're standard sound framework, while Linux users
alsa. If the applications you use require OSS you are free
to use OSS on your installation, but expecting Linux to
change its sound framework to accommodate a small number of
people, for whom workarounds are available, is no more
sensible than expecting windows out OS X to change
they're sound frameworks to accommodate a few people.
For most people, alsa is working perfectly well, and oss
emulation is not necessary because most people do not use
old applications that require sound.
On Feb 1, 2014 9:23
PM, "ChaosEsque Team" <chaosesqueteam@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Thanks for the tip.
I remember using that years and years ago, It looks like it
would work.
It's a shame that there isn't a way to configure
alsa to do something like that by default.
A friend of mine quit using linux and went to mac because of
these sound issues.
He had used it for a few years but then gave up.
It doesn't make any sense at all to not have mixing for
/dev/dsp
All the other unixes do. Alsa should follow them rather than
the incomplete
intentionally hobbled version of OSS that existed in the
past.
/dev/dsp did auto-mix in the commercial verisions of OSS
back then.
The opensource version was hobbled to get people to buy a
commercial license.
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On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus <beojan@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Subject: Re: OSS emulation doesn't allow
mixing.
To: "ChaosEsque Team" <chaosesqueteam@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014, 2:50 AM
Have you considered using aoss?
See the oss emulation page on the alsa wiki.
On Feb 1, 2014 10:46
AM, "ChaosEsque Team" <chaosesqueteam@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Alsa seems to have mixing on the alsa level, like any
respectable unix sound implementation.
I open mutiple programs that use sound, they all work
together fine.
Untill I open an old program.
The BSDs have always have sound mixing in OSS and
anything
else.
Alsa should have such too.
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On Fri, 1/31/14, Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Subject: Re: OSS emulation doesn't
allow
mixing.
To: "Beojan Stanislaus" <beojan@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, January 31, 2014, 9:11 AM
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014, Beojan
Stanislaus wrote:
> I am not a developer, just a user who was shocked
by
the tone of your
> email. However I highly doubt that oss will be
included
in the kernel
> again. This its because most applications on Linux
have
been written using
> alsa, sand it appears oss hasn't been updated
sine
2008.
The original oss has not, whic his what alsa emulated
because it was the
dominant sound platform at the time. OSS however was
being
developed by a
company, and AFAIK it has continued developing it.
Note that ALSA also does have mixing on the alsa level.
There are layers
(jack, pulseaudio,....) above alsa which can be used
for
mixing, etc.
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