People looking for help on the mail list should include a alsa-inforeport as an attachment otherwise your not likely to see any replyfrom the developers who youwish to have help. wget -O alsa-info.shhttp://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh--no-upload it will create the report in /tmp On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM, <alsa-user-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:> Send Alsa-user mailing list submissions to> alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> alsa-user-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> You can reach the person managing the list at> alsa-user-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Alsa-user digest...">>> Today's Topics:>> 1. AUSUS M472-E (VT1708S) & SPDIF (Ramon Hofer)> 2. Alsa module loading order query. (philicorda)> 3. Re: Alsa module loading order query. (Dominique Michel)> 4. HDA NVidia with optical (Josu Lazkano)> 5. Re: Problems with asihpi with some software (Arthur Peters)> 6. Re: HDA NVidia with optical (Dmitri Seletski)>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> Message: 1> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:15:08 +0200> From: Ramon Hofer <ramonhofer@xxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: AUSUS M472-E (VT1708S) & SPDIF> To: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4A745BFC.1080608@xxxxxxxxxx>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed>> Hi guys>> This is my first message in a mailing list ever and as you may see from> this fact, I'm a Linux noob.> I have posted my problem here:> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7700857#post7700857> But after I didn't get a lot of help I'm wiriting this message now.> I have searched the internet for some days and hope to get help on this> way...>> I worked with Ubuntu on my laptop for some years now and have built a HTPC.>>> My system:> Mainboard M4N72-E with onboard VIA VT1708S soundchip.> Operating System is Mythbuntu 9.04 AMD64.> Kernel 2.6.28-14-generic> ALSA Version 1.0.20>>> I want to get the sound to my 5.1 system over SPDIF. It worked> occasionally but not reproducible.>>> To solve the problem I have followed this:> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/AllensDigitalAudioHowto>> aplay -l:> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: VT1708S Analog [VT1708S Analog]> Subdevices: 2/2> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0> Subdevice #1: subdevice #1> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 1: VT1708S Digital [VT1708S Digital]> Subdevices: 2/2> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0> Subdevice #1: subdevice #1>> aplay -L:> front:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0> HDA NVidia, VT1708S Analog> Front speakers> surround40:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0> HDA NVidia, VT1708S Analog> 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers> surround41:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0> HDA NVidia, VT1708S Analog> 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers> surround50:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0> HDA NVidia, VT1708S Analog> 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers> surround51:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0> HDA NVidia, VT1708S Analog> 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers> surround71:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0> HDA NVidia, VT1708S Analog> 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers> iec958:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0> HDA NVidia, VT1708S Digital> IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output> null> Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)>>> In alsamixer I have turned each volume up and checked three IEC958 boxes.>> This is the content in my "/etc/asound.conf":> pcm.!default {> type plug> slave {> pcm "hw:0,1"> format S32_LE> }> }>> It worked with it two or three times but at the latest after rebooting> it didn't work anymore.>>> Is this a known problem of the soundchip or is the problem sitting> behind the screen?>>> Cheers> Ramon>>>> ------------------------------>> Message: 2> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:12:42 +0100> From: philicorda <philicorda@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: [Alsa-user] Alsa module loading order query.> To: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1249168362.32377.11.camel@adastra>> Content-Type: text/plain>> Hello.> I have a computer with four sound cards in it.> An Intel onboard card, a Gina20 and two Delta1010.>> I have entered the following in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf>> options snd-hda-intel index=0> options snd-gina20 index=1> options snd-ice1712 index=3> options snd-ice1712 index=4>> The problem I have is that the second delta card is called "M1010_1",> and so sometimes loads in place of "snd-hda-intel", causing the intel> card not to work. Rebooting generally sorts it out.>> When it is working, my /proc/asound/cards looks like this:>> 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia> HDA NVidia at 0xfc100000 irq 20> 1 [Gina20 ]: Echo_Gina20 - Gina20> Gina20 rev.0 (DSP56301) at 0xfc000000 irq 19> 2 [M1010_1 ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 1010> M Audio Delta 1010 at 0xc000, irq 18> 4 [M1010 ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 1010> M Audio Delta 1010 at 0xb000, irq 17>> Does anyone know how to define alsa-base.conf to prevent this happening?>>>>> ------------------------------>> Message: 3> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:35:54 +0200> From: Dominique Michel <dominique.michel@xxxxxxxxx>> Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa module loading order query.> To: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20090802103554.7d63b40d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>> Le Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:12:42 +0100,> philicorda <philicorda@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a ?crit :>>> Hello.>> I have a computer with four sound cards in it.>> An Intel onboard card, a Gina20 and two Delta1010.>>>> I have entered the following in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf>>>> options snd-hda-intel index=0>> options snd-gina20 index=1>> options snd-ice1712 index=3>> options snd-ice1712 index=4>>> The following would be better:>> options snd-ice1712 index=2> options snd-ice1712 index=3>> and>> ## ALSA portion> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel> alias snd-card-1 snd-gina20> alias snd-card-2 snd-ice1712> alias snd-card-3 snd-ice1712>> # Set this to the correct number of cards.> options snd cards_limit=4>>> The problem I have is that the second delta card is called "M1010_1",>> and so sometimes loads in place of "snd-hda-intel", causing the intel>> card not to work. Rebooting generally sorts it out.>>>> When it is working, my /proc/asound/cards looks like this:>>>> 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia>> HDA NVidia at 0xfc100000 irq 20>> 1 [Gina20 ]: Echo_Gina20 - Gina20>> Gina20 rev.0 (DSP56301) at 0xfc000000 irq 19>> 2 [M1010_1 ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 1010>> M Audio Delta 1010 at 0xc000, irq 18>> 4 [M1010 ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 1010>> M Audio Delta 1010 at 0xb000, irq 17>>>> Does anyone know how to define alsa-base.conf to prevent this happening?>>> I usually write a complete alsa.conf file with all the sections (alsa, oss,> alias). See alsa-configurtion.txt into alsa-driver doc or the kernel sources.>> If the problem remain, it will be because udev is loading snd-ice1712 before> alsasound. In that case, you have to blacklist snd-ice1712> into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf>> Cheers,> Dominique>> --> If this message is send to an email list, please make sure to answer onto the> list, or you will be ignored.>> "We have the heroes we deserve.">>>> ------------------------------>> Message: 4> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:51:03 +0200> From: Josu Lazkano <josu.lazkano@xxxxxxxxx>> Subject: [Alsa-user] HDA NVidia with optical> To: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID:> <3907abe60908021251k2be7d738leef5a0ebe5cfbc46@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252">> Hello everyone, I am new on this mail-list. I have a soud problem with my> computer, I searched a lot but I don't know the solution.>> I have a Debian Lenny machine with Nvidia ION plataform, this is the card> info:>> ###config###> aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards> 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia> HDA NVidia at 0xfae78000 irq 20> aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/devices> 0: [ 0] : control> 1: : sequencer> 16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback> 17: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback> 24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture> 33: : timer> aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/pcm> 00-01: ALC662 Digital : ALC662 Digital : playback 1> 00-00: ALC662 Analog : ALC662 Analog : playback 1 : capture 1> aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules> 0 snd_hda_intel> aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/timers> G0: system timer : 4000.000us (10000000 ticks)> P0-0-0: PCM playback 0-0-0 : SLAVE> P0-0-1: PCM capture 0-0-1 : SLAVE> P0-1-0: PCM playback 0-1-0 : SLAVE> aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/version> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16.> ###config###>> The computer is connected to the A/V receptor (Sony STR-DG710) with optical> cable.>> The problem is that when I hear a MP3 music I hear noise, but if I hear an> HD film with Dolby or something like this, I listen perfectly.>> If am listening a HD film on the A/V receptor it puts ?DOLBY DIGITAL 3/2.1?.> But when I am listening MP3 on the receiver puts ?PCM 48 kHz?. It could be> something about audio compresion?>> Here you have some audio configuration captures: (they are in spanish)>> http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/779...shot000xcx.png<http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7797/screenshot000xcx.png>>> http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5...ferenciasd.png<http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5059/pantallazopreferenciasd.png>>> http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9...erenciasdx.png<http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9752/pantallazopreferenciasdx.png>>> http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9...troldevolu.png<http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9831/pantallazocontroldevolu.png>>> http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6...roldevolus.png<http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6792/pantallazocontroldevolus.png>>> Can someone help with this?>> Sorry about my english and thanks for all.>> --> Josu Lazkano> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...>> ------------------------------>> Message: 5> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:27:24 -0400> From: Arthur Peters <amp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with asihpi with some software> To: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID:> <78634dc40908021327q5494e4e3qe3246ced081bd2bb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>> I thought I'd send this again in case the last message got lost in> transit somehow.>> Is this driver in use at all? Who is maintaining the ALSA integration?>> -Arthur>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Arthur Peters<amp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:>> I am having problems playing to a ASI6416 (a cobranet output card by>> AudioScience). aplay works but ogg123 and mplayer do not work in alsa>> mode (want to get pulseaudio and other gnome apps working, but the>> problems with those are unrelated I think). However using kernel OSS>> emulation everything works fine in the software. I am using Ubuntu>> 9.04 which has ALSA as follows:>>>> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.18.>> Compiled on Jul 28 2009 for kernel 2.6.28-13-generic (SMP).>>>> I have tried to use newer versions of ALSA and the audio science>> version of the driver and I have never had any different results (well>> at least when I could get the driver to compile I had the same>> results, the audio science driver is hard to build in ALSA mode). The>> dmesg bits that are important are attached to the message.>>>> aplay plays fine.>>>> ogg123 does play sound but it is just a series of little tiny chunks>> of audio as if the player were repeatedly underrunning somehow (could>> record it for you if that would be useful). The console output is:>> [CUT]>> Audio Device: ? Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) output>>>> Playing: /home/amp/Music/Indigo Girls/Rites of Passage/02 - Galileo.ogg>> Ogg Vorbis stream: 2 channel, 44100 Hz>> Title: Galileo>> Artist: Indigo Girls>> Track number: 2>> Discnumber: 0>> Album: Rites of Passage>> Genre: Unknown>> Date: 2000-10-03>> Musicbrainz_trackid: 34e17106-d147-4e35-ba6f-6889fce2c183>> Musicbrainz_artistid: 00c49f40-d715-4b79-b223-432048602cce>> Musicbrainz_albumid: 0db4584c-64e8-4828-adde-4bf0b486521c>> Musicbrainz_albumartistid: 00c49f40-d715-4b79-b223-432048602cce>> Artistsort: Indigo Girls>> Tracktotal: 15>> ALSA: underrun, at least 0ms.04:12.96 ?(242.6 kbps) ?Output Buffer 100.0%>> ALSA: underrun, at least 0ms.04:12.96 ?(278.1 kbps) ?Output Buffer ?66.7%>> ALSA: underrun, at least 0ms.04:12.96 ?(266.7 kbps) ?Output Buffer ?66.7%>> ALSA: underrun, at least 0ms.04:12.96 ?(269.7 kbps) ?Output Buffer ?66.7%>> ALSA: underrun, at least 0ms.04:12.96 ?(259.7 kbps) ?Output Buffer ?66.7%>> ALSA: underrun, at least 0ms.04:12.96 ?(258.8 kbps) ?Output Buffer ?66.7%>> ALSA: underrun, at least 0ms.04:12.96 ?(284.5 kbps) ?Output Buffer ?66.7%>> [repeated until the whole track has been "played"....]>> [CUT]>>>>>> mplayer doesn't play anything. It doesn't appear to even start sending>> data to the card:>>>> [CUT]>> MPlayer 1.0rc2-4.3.3 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team>> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU ? ? ? ? ? ?5160 ?@ 3.00GHz (Family: 6,>> Model: 15, Stepping: 6)>> CPUflags: ?MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1>> Compiled with runtime CPU detection.>> mplayer: could not connect to socket>> mplayer: No such file or directory>> Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.>>>> Playing /home/amp/Music/Indigo Girls/Rites of Passage/02 - Galileo.ogg.>> [Ogg] stream 0: audio (Vorbis), -aid 0>> Ogg file format detected.>> Clip info:>> ?Name: Galileo>> ?Artist: Indigo Girls>> ?Track: 2>> ?Album: Rites of Passage>> ?Genre: Unknown>> ?Creation Date: 2000-10-03>> ==========================================================================>> Forced audio codec: mad>> Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders>> AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 256.0 kbit/18.14% (ratio: 32000->176400)>> Selected audio codec: [ffvorbis] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Vorbis decoder)>> ==========================================================================>> AO: [alsa] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)>> Video: no video>> Starting playback...>> A: ? 0.0 (00.0) of 253.0 (04:12.9) ??,?%>>>> [I pressed Ctrl-C]>> MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: play_audio>> [CUT]>>>> Any advice? Is this a known issue? Anything I can do to help fix this>> issue of make ASIHPI support better in general?>>>> -Arthur>>>> dmesg bits:>> [ ? 15.558701] ASIHPI driver 3.11.13>> [ ? 15.558746] Probe PCI device (104c:a106,175c:6400,0010)>> [ ? 15.561562] asihpi 0000:0c:02.0: firmware: requesting asihpi/dsp6205.bin>> [ ? 15.628384] hpidspcd.c:109 Version mismatch ?DSP image 31200 != Driver 31113>> [ ? 15.671128] asihpi 0000:0c:02.0: firmware: requesting asihpi/dsp6400.bin>> [ ? 15.685673] hpidspcd.c:109 Version mismatch ?DSP image 31200 != Driver 31113>> [ ? 16.888427] Probe found adapter ASI6416 HPI index #0.>> [ ? 16.888483] ALSA>> /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/pci/asihpi/asihpi.c:2862: Adapter ID=6416>> Index=0 NumOutStreams=8 NumInStreams=8 S/N=37390>> [ ? 16.888485] Hw Version F1 DSP code version 312>> [ ? 16.888753] Supports mmap:1 grouping:1 mrx:1>> [ ? 16.902492] ALSA>> /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/pci/asihpi/asihpi.c:2676: 228 mixer>> controls found>>>>>> ------------------------------>> Message: 6> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:31:47 +0100> From: Dmitri Seletski <drjoms@xxxxxxxxx>> Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] HDA NVidia with optical> To: Josu Lazkano <josu.lazkano@xxxxxxxxx>> Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4A7605C3.7090907@xxxxxxxxx>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252>> Not necessary> can you try audacious for example?> what happened in other mp3 players?> can you play mp3 in xine or mplayer? does it work properly there?>> Josu Lazkano wrote:>> Yes, i am reading forums post and I think that I need to configure>> something like "plughw", but I don't know where.>>>> Thanks again.>>>> 2009/8/2 Dmitri Seletski <drjoms@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:drjoms@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>> amd problem happened with all of them?>> Josu Lazkano wrote:>> > thanks, yes i probe Totem and XBMC.>> >>> > Regards>> >>> > 2009/8/2 Dmitri Seletski <drjoms@xxxxxxxxx>> <mailto:drjoms@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:drjoms@xxxxxxxxx>> <mailto:drjoms@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> >>> > Josu Lazkano wrote:>> > > Hello everyone, I am new on this mail-list. I have a soud>> > problem with>> > > my computer, I searched a lot but I don't know the solution.>> > >>> > > I have a Debian Lenny machine with Nvidia ION plataform,>> this is the>> > > card info:>> > >>> > > ###config###>> > > aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards>> > > 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia>> > > HDA NVidia at 0xfae78000 irq 20>> > > aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/devices>> > > 0: [ 0] : control>> > > 1: : sequencer>> > > 16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback>> > > 17: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback>> > > 24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture>> > > 33: : timer>> > > aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/pcm>> > > 00-01: ALC662 Digital : ALC662 Digital : playback 1>> > > 00-00: ALC662 Analog : ALC662 Analog : playback 1 : capture 1>> > > aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/modules>> > > 0 snd_hda_intel>> > > aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/timers>> > > G0: system timer : 4000.000us (10000000 ticks)>> > > P0-0-0: PCM playback 0-0-0 : SLAVE>> > > P0-0-1: PCM capture 0-0-1 : SLAVE>> > > P0-1-0: PCM playback 0-1-0 : SLAVE>> > > aita@media:~$ cat /proc/asound/version>> > > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16.>> > > ###config###>> > >>> > > The computer is connected to the A/V receptor (Sony>> STR-DG710) with>> > > optical cable.>> > >>> > > The problem is that when I hear a MP3 music I hear noise,>> but if I>> > > hear an HD film with Dolby or something like this, I listen>> > perfectly.>> > >>> > > If am listening a HD film on the A/V receptor it puts>> ?DOLBY DIGITAL>> > > 3/2.1?. But when I am listening MP3 on the receiver puts>> ?PCM 48>> > kHz?.>> > > It could be something about audio compresion?>> > >>> > > Here you have some audio configuration captures: (they are in>> > spanish)>> > >>> > > http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/779...shot000xcx.png>> > > <http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7797/screenshot000xcx.png>>> > >>> > > http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5...ferenciasd.png>> > >>> >>> <http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5059/pantallazopreferenciasd.png>>> > >>> > > http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9...erenciasdx.png>> > >>> >>> <http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9752/pantallazopreferenciasdx.png>>> > >>> > > http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9...troldevolu.png>> > >>> >>> <http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9831/pantallazocontroldevolu.png>>> > >>> > > http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6...roldevolus.png>> > >>> >>> <http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6792/pantallazocontroldevolus.png>>> > >>> > > Can someone help with this?>> > >>> > > Sorry about my english and thanks for all.>> > >>> > > -->> > > Josu Lazkano>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> > >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>> > > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal>> Reports>> > 2008 30-Day>> > > trial. 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