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purtroppo il 15 mancherò anche io......lowe----Messaggio originale----Da: alsa-user-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: 23-ago-2007 8.53 AMA: <alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Ogg: Alsa-user Digest, Vol 16, Issue 24
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Today's Topics:
   1. 2 questions about amixer's output (Zbigniew Baniewski)   2. Re: Invalid CTL (Clemens Ladisch)   3. Re: 2 questions about amixer's output (Clemens Ladisch)   4. can't get sound on gateway mx8711 laptop with intel	82801G      (Robert P. J. Day)   5. Re: Invalid CTL (Loris Caren)   6. Is CX20549 the same as Conexant 5045 for model= options      (Nigel Henry)   7. Re: can't get sound on gateway mx8711 laptop with intel      82801G (Joris Huizer)   8. Re: can't get sound on gateway mx8711 laptop with intel      82801G (Robert P. J. Day)   9. Re: Is CX20549 the same as Conexant 5045 for model= options      (Bill Unruh)  10. Re: Invalid CTL (Clemens Ladisch)

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Message: 1Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:02:56 +0200From: Zbigniew Baniewski <zb@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject:  2 questions about amixer's outputTo: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: <20070822140256.GA10226@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
1. Does there exist an easy way to distinguish "output devices" from  "capture devices"? There's not always appropriate remark in the device's  "name" field.
2. Some devices have "access" field like: "rw---R--". What this big "R" does   mean?-- 				pozdrawiam / regards
						Zbigniew Baniewski


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Message: 2Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:07:53 +0200From: Clemens Ladisch <cladisch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: Re:  Invalid CTLTo: Loris Caren <loris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: <46CC5149.6090000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Loris Caren wrote:> When I try 'amixer contents' (with sound modules loaded) I get error message> ALSA lib control.c:909 Invalid CTL default control default open error> > Note that I'm running on a minimal embedded system
Probably the configuration files in /usr/share/alsa/ are missing.Does "aplay -L" output anything?

Regards,Clemens


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Message: 3Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:15:19 +0200From: Clemens Ladisch <cladisch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: Re:  2 questions about amixer's outputTo: Zbigniew Baniewski <zb@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: <46CC5307.4090107@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Zbigniew Baniewski wrote:> 1. Does there exist an easy way to distinguish "output devices" from>   "capture devices"? There's not always appropriate remark in the device's>   "name" field.
Only the name determines whether the control is for playback or capture.Some controls have an ambiguous functions, and some drivers give theircontrols ambiguous names.
> 2. Some devices have "access" field like: "rw---R--". What this big "R" does>    mean?
rwivlRWCr        readable w       writable  i      inactive   v     volatile    l    locked     R   tlv-readable      W  tlv-writable       C tlv-commandable
"TLV" is additional data about the control, like dB scale information.

HTHClemens


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Message: 4Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:52:32 -0400 (EDT)From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject:  can't get sound on gateway mx8711 laptop with	intel	82801GTo: ALSA user list <alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708221352050.4049@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

  i've been fighting for the last few hours, and exchanging someposts on the fedora test mailing list, trying to get functioning soundon my gateway laptop.  i'm an alsa newbie, so please take that intoaccount.
  yesterday, i installed f8-t1 on this gateway mx8711 and, during theinstall, the sound test worked fine.  since then, nothing.
  running "system-config-soundcard" displays the following:
  Vendor: Intel Corporation  Model: 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller  Module:snd-hda-intel
  Device settings    PCM Device  STAC92XX Analog
  originally, /etc/modprobe.conf contained the line:
    options snd-hda-intel index=0
but based on what i read in the ALSA config file, i matched the laptopand model and changed that to read:
    options snd-hda-intel model=m2-2
so far, nothing's worked, so i'm definitely open to suggestions.
  as a start, if one wanted to report a non-working sound card, whatis the minimal amount of info to supply?  what files should be listed?what commands run?  and so on.  thanks.
rday
p.s.  i also suppose a decent tutorial on ALSA architecture wouldn'thurt.  any pointers?
-- ========================================================================Robert P. J. DayLinux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel PedantryWaterloo, Ontario, CANADA
http://crashcourse.ca========================================================================


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Message: 5Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:52:03 +0100From: Loris Caren <loris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: Re:  Invalid CTLTo: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: <200708222152.03047.loris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
On Wednesday 22 August 2007 16:07, you wrote:> Loris Caren wrote:> > When I try 'amixer contents' (with sound modules loaded) I get> > error message ALSA lib control.c:909 Invalid CTL default control> > default open error> >> > Note that I'm running on a minimal embedded system>> Does "aplay -L" output anything?aplay -L produces similar 'Invalid CTL' barfs.> Probably the configuration files in /usr/share/alsa/ are missing.That sounds interesting, I definitely haven't put these on my embedded system.On my FC3 dev machine, theres quite a bit in this directory - can anybody tell me how much of it is needed or how I can create it?


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Message: 6Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:43:19 +0200From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb2m97pp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject:  Is CX20549 the same as Conexant 5045 for model=	optionsTo: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: <200708222343.19821.cave.dnb2m97pp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
Folks on the french debian user list are having problems with hda intel. I googled a bit and found a post from Takashi, which suggested reading the doc ALSA-configuration.txt, which is in the alsa driver tarball.
I posted ALSA-configuration.txt to the list, and a couple of guys appear to have resolved their hda-intel problems from info in the doc.
Someone still has a problem with their Toshiba P100, hda-intel, and the Conexant CX20549 codec.
A bit more googling this afternoon turned up this:
commit 82f30040ada635d5d42a244b6eb84607d9881f5aAuthor: Tobin Davis <tdavis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Date:   Tue Feb 13 12:45:44 2007 +0100
    [ALSA] hda-codec - More fixes for Conexant HD Audio support        Renamed Conexant 5045 to CX20549 (Venice) per Conexant Documentation    Renamed Conexant 5047 to CX20551 (Waikiki) per Conexant Documentation    Fixed automute on HP Laptops with CX20551 codec.    Fixed recording issues on Toshiba Satelite P100/P105 series laptops    Added HP DV8000, DV2000Z, Fujitsu Si1520 support    More work to be done on CX20549 based systems, but CX20551 Systems are    much better now.        Signed-off-by: Tobin Davis <tdavis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>    Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@xxxxxxx>    Signed-off-by: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@xxxxxxx>
Is this saying that the CX20549 is the same thing as the Conexant 5045, as far as model= options are concerned?
There appears to be only one option for the Conexant 5045, apart from the test option, and I dont know if he's using the model=laptop option, but appears to be having problems with the mike, headphones, and line in.
He's using a Toshiba P100 on Debian Etch, with the 2.6.21-rc5 kernel. Alsamixer is 1.0.14rc2, which shows CX20549 (Venice)
Any suggestions would be welcome. I can ask him to post his amixer output if that will help perhaps.
Nigel.



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Message: 7Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:44:21 -0700 (PDT)From: Joris Huizer <joris_huizer@xxxxxxxxx>Subject: Re:  can't get sound on gateway mx8711 laptop with	intel	82801GTo: ALSA user list <alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Message-ID: <748893.44661.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

--- "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >   i've been fighting for the last few hours, and> exchanging some> posts on the fedora test mailing list, trying to get> functioning sound> on my gateway laptop.  i'm an alsa newbie, so please> take that into> account.> >   yesterday, i installed f8-t1 on this gateway> mx8711 and, during the> install, the sound test worked fine.  since then,> nothing.
Assuming the problem is "just" no sound output - youmust unmute the sound card, as the default settingsare to have it completely mute. You can change thosesettings by running 'alsamixer' on the command lineand changing them. Use 'm' to mute/unmute and'up'/'down' keys to increase/decrease sound volume.
It's worth checking at least
regards,
Joris

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Message: 8Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:54:39 -0400 (EDT)From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: Re:  can't get sound on gateway mx8711 laptop with	intel 82801GTo: Joris Huizer <joris_huizer@xxxxxxxxx>Cc: ALSA user list <alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708221753020.4234@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Joris Huizer wrote:
>> --- "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:>> >> >   i've been fighting for the last few hours, and> > exchanging some> > posts on the fedora test mailing list, trying to get> > functioning sound> > on my gateway laptop.  i'm an alsa newbie, so please> > take that into> > account.> >> >   yesterday, i installed f8-t1 on this gateway> > mx8711 and, during the> > install, the sound test worked fine.  since then,> > nothing.>> Assuming the problem is "just" no sound output - you must unmute the> sound card, as the default settings are to have it completely mute.> You can change those settings by running 'alsamixer' on the command> line and changing them. Use 'm' to mute/unmute and 'up'/'down' keys> to increase/decrease sound volume.>> It's worth checking at least
actually, i messed with alsaunmute earlier and finally got sound wheni'm running the cd player, but still nothing when i'm playing embeddedyoutube videos.  so i'm guessing this is something other than a simplesound configuration.  is there some reason playing cds would work, andyoutube videos wouldn't?
rday-- ========================================================================Robert P. J. DayLinux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel PedantryWaterloo, Ontario, CANADA
http://crashcourse.ca========================================================================


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Message: 9Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:19:26 -0700 (PDT)From: Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: Re:  Is CX20549 the same as Conexant 5045 for	model= optionsTo: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb2m97pp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708222215320.30912@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Nigel Henry wrote:
> Folks on the french debian user list are having problems with hda intel. I> googled a bit and found a post from Takashi, which suggested reading the doc> ALSA-configuration.txt, which is in the alsa driver tarball.>> I posted ALSA-configuration.txt to the list, and a couple of guys appear to> have resolved their hda-intel problems from info in the doc.
I am confused by that information. It talks about different codecs. Butnone correspond it seems to for example the Realtek codecs on the ToshibaU300.Using alsa 1.0.14 I get with the default two sliders for output, nothingfor input. And no sound comes out of eitehr speakers or headphones.And yes, they are unmuted and the volume sliders are all the way up.

>> Someone still has a problem with their Toshiba P100, hda-intel, and the> Conexant CX20549 codec.>> A bit more googling this afternoon turned up this:>> commit 82f30040ada635d5d42a244b6eb84607d9881f5a> Author: Tobin Davis <tdavis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> Date:   Tue Feb 13 12:45:44 2007 +0100>>    [ALSA] hda-codec - More fixes for Conexant HD Audio support>>    Renamed Conexant 5045 to CX20549 (Venice) per Conexant Documentation>    Renamed Conexant 5047 to CX20551 (Waikiki) per Conexant Documentation>    Fixed automute on HP Laptops with CX20551 codec.>    Fixed recording issues on Toshiba Satelite P100/P105 series laptops>    Added HP DV8000, DV2000Z, Fujitsu Si1520 support>    More work to be done on CX20549 based systems, but CX20551 Systems are>    much better now.>>    Signed-off-by: Tobin Davis <tdavis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>    Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@xxxxxxx>>    Signed-off-by: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@xxxxxxx>>> Is this saying that the CX20549 is the same thing as the Conexant 5045, as far> as model= options are concerned?>> There appears to be only one option for the Conexant 5045, apart from the test> option, and I dont know if he's using the model=laptop option, but appears to> be having problems with the mike, headphones, and line in.>> He's using a Toshiba P100 on Debian Etch, with the 2.6.21-rc5 kernel.> Alsamixer is 1.0.14rc2, which shows CX20549 (Venice)>> Any suggestions would be welcome. I can ask him to post his amixer output if> that will help perhaps.>


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Message: 10Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:54:53 +0200From: Clemens Ladisch <cladisch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: Re:  Invalid CTLTo: Loris Caren <loris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Cc: alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: <46CD2F3D.4010100@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Loris Caren wrote:> On Wednesday 22 August 2007 16:07, you wrote:> > Probably the configuration files in /usr/share/alsa/ are missing.>> That sounds interesting, I definitely haven't put these on my embedded> system.> On my FC3 dev machine, theres quite a bit in this directory - can> anybody tell me how much of it is needed or how I can create it?
Which files are needed depends on the driver.You can try deleting any unneeded card-specific files from the cardssubdirectory.
These files are installed when you run alsa-lib's "make install", or youcan copy them manually from the alsa-lib/src/conf/ directory (see theMakefile.am files in these directories).

HTHClemens


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