This was setup 10-2013 and the 'Domain users' group used to populate at the samba client. The error I am seeing in the error log is relatively new, within the last 6 months. Looking at my cron.daily directory it says my backups are generated using the built-in db2bak.pl perl script. It looks like this is stored in: /usr/lib64/dirsrv/slapd-zigzag/ and there is a file called bak2db.pl as well. It is dated oct-4-2013 and the 389-base version is 1.2.11.15-22.el6_4 Are these scripts changed much per 389-ds version? If I look up the information at home tonight will it be the same We rebooted Feb 18th and just prior to that we used the IDEALX scripts to create a samba/unix user. Those scripts now return: Can't call method "get_value" on an undefined value at /usr/sbin/smbldap-useradd line 271. I suppose I could trace back the script and see if that leads anywhere. thanks, Job cacka -- 389-users mailing list 389-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/389-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx