On 01/15/2014 10:51 AM, Richard Mixon wrote: > Nathan/Rich, > > Thank you both for the responses. > > We are using the 389 Directory Server for a pretty isolated situation - > authentication/authorization for external users on an "extranet" type > portal website (it integrates pieces of several different web applications). > > We don't really envision (famous last words, I know) using it on a > broader basis. > > Rich, I can understand why the pre-hashed passwords cause a lot of > integration points to break. Is there a good alternative that still > makes cracking your passwords prohibitively expensive? > > Nathan, I have a background in C, but do mostly Java these days. I will > take a look at ticket 397 and get back to you if it's something I could > work on. Can you provide me the pointers you were referring to? You can take a look at the existing password storage scheme plugin code: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/389/ds.git/tree/ldap/servers/plugins/pwdstorage Each storage scheme needs a set of comparison and encoding functions. The comparison is used to validate a password during a bind operation, and the encoding function is used when a password is set. You then register these functions in pwd_init.c, which is where you can map the storage scheme prefix with the callbacks. The actual hashing would be done by calling into NSS from the new functions. > > Thank you - Richard > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Rich Megginson <rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > On 01/15/2014 10:38 AM, Richard Mixon wrote: >> During the bind process is there anyway to tell 389 directory >> server to hash a plaintext password n (multiple) times before >> trying to compare to what is stored? >> >> I am trying to implement something similar to what's described in >> this article: >> http://www.stormpath.com/blog/strong-password-hashing-apache-shiro >> >> Our plan was to to use SSHA256 to hash the passwords around >> 200,000 times before storing. This would at least slow down any >> cracking attempts should someone get access to our directory. >> >> I've read through the documentation on the Red Hat Directory >> Server site, including the "Plug-in Guide". Under "5.8 Checking >> Passwords" it refers to calling function "slapi_pw_find_sv()" - >> looking at the doc for this function it does not look like hashing >> multiple times is supported. >> >> Is there some means of doing this that is not obvious to me? > > No. > >> >> I can certainly do it by re-writing the security plugins for the >> various servers (Tomcat, PHP Wordpress, etc) such that they hash >> the plaintext password n minus 1 times before issuing the bind - >> but was hoping not to do that. > > Use of pre-hashed passwords is strongly discouraged and will break > things like sasl and replication. > > Does this have anything to do with > https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/397? > >> >> I'm relatively new to 389 directory server, but so far quite happy >> to have moved to it from another directory server. >> >> Thank you - Richard >> >> -- >> Richard Mixon >> Custom Computer Creations, L.L.C. >> mobile: (480) 577-6834 <tel:%28480%29%20577-6834> office: (480) >> 614-3442 <tel:%28480%29%20614-3442> >> email: rnmixon@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rnmixon@xxxxxxxxxx> >> <mailto:rnmixon@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rnmixon@xxxxxxxxxx>> >> Microsoft Partner ID: 1263725 >> The messages and documents transmitted with this notice contain >> confidential information belonging to the sender. 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